12g NANO LIGHT UPGRADE (70w vrs 150w this time) 05.04.06
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mikeguerrero
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Go with the Coralife that Jesse showed on hellolights... It will match your tank.... ;-)
ripcurrent
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definitely go with the aquamedic. Not to knock the asian stuff but german engineering is in a different league... at least in regard to lighting. You'll be happy you did... I promise you that.
ripcurrent
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SO where we at on this Eddy? Is that 20k 150 watt AquaMedic fixture on its way yet? :mrgreen:
EDGRAY
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Well RIPCURRENT we on it ... thank good my fishy friend is helping me (Jesse) so we still planing on what to do so far i was on the aquamedic fixture but we and other people were discusting that was too much light for a zoanthid dominant tank so ... now i think we are thinking on making a DIY using my 2 24w 50/50 and on the middle a 70w 13k but we still talking about it see what happens as soon as i know more ill give the update k...
thx for asking man!!! :mrgreen:
thx for asking man!!! :mrgreen:
Ed,
I will see if I can find the link for the guy that sells them but I have heard nothing but good things about his products but he makes a 70w retro DE MH kit its pretty resonably priced I think its like around 130 shipped like I said I will see I can find the link for you.
Aaron
I will see if I can find the link for the guy that sells them but I have heard nothing but good things about his products but he makes a 70w retro DE MH kit its pretty resonably priced I think its like around 130 shipped like I said I will see I can find the link for you.
Aaron
EDGRAY
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Thx amf82380 and well sounds good really but i think im gonna go with the guy that is selling a MH fixture here go check on the flea equipment ... he is selling same fixture but with better bulb and priced shipped so i think with him i can save shipping... but ill let you know when i decided ok...
ripcurrent
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That 70 watt kit is nice. Very good quality.
Dont be afraid of too much light though with the 150watt. I had the same tank as you (NanoCube 12) with nothing but zoos and rics with a 70 watt 14k metal halide and I'm telling you, I wished every day I had gone with a 150watt. Before the 70 watt metal halide it had 4 x 24 watt PC's. I dont know... You have an awesome tank Eddy. I just want to help you get the most out of it. Aside from IMO being the ideal light for your tank they look really classy.
Ok I'm done selling now :mrgreen:
Dont be afraid of too much light though with the 150watt. I had the same tank as you (NanoCube 12) with nothing but zoos and rics with a 70 watt 14k metal halide and I'm telling you, I wished every day I had gone with a 150watt. Before the 70 watt metal halide it had 4 x 24 watt PC's. I dont know... You have an awesome tank Eddy. I just want to help you get the most out of it. Aside from IMO being the ideal light for your tank they look really classy.
Ok I'm done selling now :mrgreen:
mikeguerrero
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I have a 150 watt monster on my 6 gallon and you don't see me complaining.....
GO FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ripcurrent
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Your my boy Mike! :mrgreen:
I love your light Jesse... You really did a good job and I'm sure anything you guys put together will be very nice. But honestly it just doesnt make sense when I'm seeing Mike bolding throwing a 150watter above his 6 gallon. Considering the relatively close cost of both options... GO BIG!!! As soon as I can head over there my little bro and I will be hanging a 400 watt halide over his 20 long. Light = Good! The more the better. As long as the water temp isnt tremendously effected I have always seen better results by going bigger. I say this very humbly but I have had probably 10 different tanks over the years and had probably almost double that in different lighting systems. The lesson I have learned in regard to halide lighting is go as big as you can without boiling your tank.
I certainly trust you both to come up with something great but please consider my humble experience before making a decision. :mrgreen:
Oh and if you guys do stick with the 70 watt plan, I have a brand new piece of UV glass made for that exact system over in the equipment flea market. I'd be happy to donate it to the cause. I'm anxious to see Eddy's upgrade regardless of what light is chosen in the end.
I love your light Jesse... You really did a good job and I'm sure anything you guys put together will be very nice. But honestly it just doesnt make sense when I'm seeing Mike bolding throwing a 150watter above his 6 gallon. Considering the relatively close cost of both options... GO BIG!!! As soon as I can head over there my little bro and I will be hanging a 400 watt halide over his 20 long. Light = Good! The more the better. As long as the water temp isnt tremendously effected I have always seen better results by going bigger. I say this very humbly but I have had probably 10 different tanks over the years and had probably almost double that in different lighting systems. The lesson I have learned in regard to halide lighting is go as big as you can without boiling your tank.
I certainly trust you both to come up with something great but please consider my humble experience before making a decision. :mrgreen:
Oh and if you guys do stick with the 70 watt plan, I have a brand new piece of UV glass made for that exact system over in the equipment flea market. I'd be happy to donate it to the cause. I'm anxious to see Eddy's upgrade regardless of what light is chosen in the end.
ripcurrent
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EDGRAY
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Thx for the offer RIPCURRENT and well this project is gonna take some time i think....not sure when we are gonna have upgrades and well i was thinking like you 2 about the MH but also keep in mind too much watt might cause my zoas to bleach.... and we dont want that ..... so still thinking of it ....but is like this stilll 70 watts plus 2 24w pc (65%) and aquamedics fixture (35%) so is a though one.... see what we make with reef and i trust him cause the change on his zoas wow 100% more color than before ......and i was noticing tooo not sure but some zoas that were in top of jesses seem tha they were bleaching alitte not sure cause too close to MH or something??? so that put me thinking i dont want that to happen if is that the case and he has only 70w ... imagine what a 150 will do to my smaller tank.... everything willl be crystal white ooohh no no more eagle eyes just white :lol: :lol: so i dont know ..... upgrades is a hard thing to do decisions decisions and well i want to make the right one cause MH upgrade and thats it no more for me happy with my tank just need my MH fix cause i want my zoas to pop like JESSES zoas man YOU GUYS YOU SHOULD SEE THE ZOAS OF JESSE DOES COLOR AMAZING NEVER SEEN ZOAS LIKE THAT NOT EVEN IN PICTURES AND WHEN YOU GET SOMETHING COLOR FULL IN PERSON ZOAS ARE DARKER THAN IN PICS BUT JESSES WOW :shock: :shock: THATS WHY IM ALWAYS after jesses frags lol........ :lol: :razz:
so guys ......i think this project is gonna be really longggggggggg..... need to make right choice....
so guys ......i think this project is gonna be really longggggggggg..... need to make right choice....
As long as you acclimate the zoas properly to the MH, you wont have bleaching. And as long as you have overhangs and such that you can put frags like blues and others that prefer a shaded area, than the zoas would be fine with a 150 watter. I also remember seeing somewhere that Mike plans on having SPS frags in his tank... eddie has plans fgor a zoa-dominant tank. The 150 watter would be a much easier option.
Eddie, if you are worried about your zoas bleaching, dont worry. Nothing will bleach out. That is caused by improper UV filtering and/or improper acclimation. The frag you recieved from me may have been lighter because those couple of polyps were'nt getting direct light. I have not lost ANY color in ANY of my zoas no matter how close they get to the MH (except the blues which i moved to the end of the tank away from the MH.)
I do think that 400 watts over a 12" deep tank is overkill though... i just have to say that. 250 is understandable though.
Eddie. I know i keep goin back and forth on this, but there will be nothing wrong with a 150 watt 20,000k MH over your tank. You will just have to hang it higher in the beginning and slowly lower it. Or use pieces of window screen over the top and remove a layer every week or so. But you will have to do this with any MH that you add to your tank.
Keep this in mind too. Your MAIN reseaon for doing this upgrade is because you see the color change that takes place when I take a frag from you and put it in my tank. But consider this. there are frags from my tank that I can give to you that will change and look more attractive in your tank. It all depends on the color variation and what kind of lightin the zoas have become accustomed to.
Just rambling now,
Jesse
Eddie, if you are worried about your zoas bleaching, dont worry. Nothing will bleach out. That is caused by improper UV filtering and/or improper acclimation. The frag you recieved from me may have been lighter because those couple of polyps were'nt getting direct light. I have not lost ANY color in ANY of my zoas no matter how close they get to the MH (except the blues which i moved to the end of the tank away from the MH.)
I do think that 400 watts over a 12" deep tank is overkill though... i just have to say that. 250 is understandable though.
Eddie. I know i keep goin back and forth on this, but there will be nothing wrong with a 150 watt 20,000k MH over your tank. You will just have to hang it higher in the beginning and slowly lower it. Or use pieces of window screen over the top and remove a layer every week or so. But you will have to do this with any MH that you add to your tank.
Keep this in mind too. Your MAIN reseaon for doing this upgrade is because you see the color change that takes place when I take a frag from you and put it in my tank. But consider this. there are frags from my tank that I can give to you that will change and look more attractive in your tank. It all depends on the color variation and what kind of lightin the zoas have become accustomed to.
Just rambling now,
Jesse