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Dickie52 said:
I don't want to be a pest, but what is a good silicone to use, for a project like this?
Not being a pest. I am glad to help. I use GE Silicone I for window & door. The Silicone I is not mildew resistant, as is the GE Silicone II. But I have also heard from one of the members of our reef club, that it also has something to do with the chemicals released as the silicone cures. According to him, the GE I releases acetic acid and the GE II releases ammonia - so you can see where that may be a problem. Of course, I didn't do so well in chemistry, so I don't know for sure what the answer is there. :) I have also read on RC that GE I is the one to use. I have used it for years with no ill effects.
 

reefman23

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I just went through a tube of DAP 100% silicone rubber sealant...i originally bought a tube of the GE, but got it home only to find out it had dried up inside the tube.

Jesse
 

Jordan8008

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Taping that Glass, nice idea, I was eyeballing your lines prior to your most recent pic post and was trying to find out just how you got your lines so clean looking, casue I have tried doing it in the past and got some of the worst lines imaginable.....anyways: >*MASKING TAPE* note to file< lol :stonight
 
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Jordan8008 said:
Taping that Glass, nice idea, I was eyeballing your lines prior to your most recent pic post and was trying to find out just how you got your lines so clean looking, casue I have tried doing it in the past and got some of the worst lines imaginable.....anyways: >*MASKING TAPE* note to file< lol :stonight
I believe there is also some sort of tool out there that allows you to evenly spread out a bead of silicone (or caulk). I just have never tried it. Tape works for me and only takes a few minutes to lay out. Just remember to take the tape off as soon as you get the bead smoothed out, so the silicone won't begin to set up on top of it.
 

sadielynn

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Pirate
Thanks for the vote of confidence
I think that I may try this , I am looking into doing this as a 7 gallon tank so that I can retro all my hardware to fit this way I dont have to buy all new equipment , I will be calling the local glass shop and have the LPS order me some aquarium silicone then I will be giving it a go I figure that I am in no hurry so I can take my time and since there is no drilling or cutting that I should be fairly safe to try this .... I love the look and now I think that I may have the confidence ...dont get me wrong I like the bow front but I think that a "frameless" tank would be nice to have as well so with that said maybe in the next couple of months I will give it a try....... I also am not trying to be a pest but did you only silicone the inside corners / seams or did you silicone the "outside" as well :mrgreen:
Hopefully when I do this and I take my time it wont leak :mrgreen:
 
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sadielynn said:
Pirate
Thanks for the vote of confidence
I think that I may try this , I am looking into doing this as a 7 gallon tank so that I can retro all my hardware to fit this way I dont have to buy all new equipment , I will be calling the local glass shop and have the LPS order me some aquarium silicone then I will be giving it a go I figure that I am in no hurry so I can take my time and since there is no drilling or cutting that I should be fairly safe to try this .... I love the look and now I think that I may have the confidence ...dont get me wrong I like the bow front but I think that a "frameless" tank would be nice to have as well so with that said maybe in the next couple of months I will give it a try....... I also am not trying to be a pest but did you only silicone the inside corners / seams or did you silicone the "outside" as well :mrgreen:
Hopefully when I do this and I take my time it wont leak :mrgreen:
Hi Sadielynn,

Great! I am glad to have inspired someone. I am sure you will do fine and will be proud of your little creation! Please don't feel like you are being a "pest" (that goes for anyone). I am happy to help, if I can.

If you want the glass shop to cut the glass for you, before you go, make a cut list for them to follow. If you are not sure what size each piece should be to all fit together niceley, go to this cut list calculator.

http://www.garf.org/tank/buildtank.asp

Enter the size you want the tank to be and the calculator will give you a cut list. It will also give you sizes of "Euro" braces, which on a tank that small, I do not believe are really necessary. The calculator will also give you a recommended thickness of glass, which has 1/4" as a minimum. I would recommend you use 1/4" plate glass for strength and durability.

You might also not mention to the glass shop that you are building an aquarium. I have read where some people have had difficulty getting shops to cut glass to use in aquarium building - presumably because they don't want any liability if something goes awry. It's not really their business what you want to do with the glass.

You only want the silicone between the edges of the pieces being joined and along the inside of all joints. I scrape as much silicone as I can from the outside of the joints. You don't want silicone showing from the outside.

That tank size calculator also has step by step assembly instructions. I would skip the part about supporting the bottom with dowels on a tank that small. I built mine on top of a couple sheets of wax paper, with a towel underneath. The silicone will not stick to the wax paper, so after it has dried, you can peel the paper from the bottom and trim off any excess.

Good luck - and let me know if you have any questions...
 
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For anyone thinking about cutting glass themselves, these are the tools that I use: Glass cutter, cut run pliers and a rotary tool with a diamond cutting wheel. Working with glass isn't that popular these days, since acrylic has gotten so fashionable. But IMHO, glass is a little easier to work with than acrylic, bonds together with silicone that can be purchased at the local hardware store and won't scratch, plus years down the road can still be cleaned up to look brand new.


 

sadielynn

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wow that is a neat site thanks :shock:
I just printed my material list with 1/4 inch glass
our glass shop does alot of cuts for custom tanks
they even made one but used the wrong silicone and killed the guys reef this happed about 5 years ago before I got back into tanks and into salt water :mrgreen:
 

skipm

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Pirate this thread is an inspiration for all of us to DIY. I may have to start the assembly of my 12" cube tank later today. I also have to admit that I am jealous of your glass drill :mrgreen: . Keep the posts coming. BTW, I too am an avid DIYer, some acrylic, some glass, alot of wood.
 
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skipm said:
Pirate this thread is an inspiration for all of us to DIY. I may have to start the assembly of my 12" cube tank later today. I also have to admit that I am jealous of your glass drill :mrgreen: . Keep the posts coming. BTW, I too am an avid DIYer, some acrylic, some glass, alot of wood.
Thanks skipm. I am glad that the thread has created a spark somewhere. I must admit, my main reason for starting the thread was to see if anyone thought I was nuts for doing something like this. I suspected that I was. So, either I am not completely nuts - or I just found a bunch of other folks that are as nuts as I am! :)

BTW, since you do a lot of wood working, I may have a question or two for you once I start to make this cabinet to house all of this stuff. I am not that great at working with wood - pretty sad, since my grandfather was a carpenter. :)
 

skipm

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We aren't nuts, we just enjoy all of the aspects of our hobby...........the smell of skimmate in the morning :leat :eatdr
 

EDGRAY

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PiratesReef said:
Dickie52 said:
Welcome to Nano Nut House......

:moonin
Great! Now I feel at home here! :lol3:
:lol: :lol: you guys are so funny :lol3: :lol3: anyways pirtasreef i dont think your crazy ..you're just brilliant....nice setup... any more upgrade on the project. :???:
 

skipm

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Pirate, where would you go to find a glass drill like that one, I looked around some thia AM (had some extra time) and found nothing. Just curious is all, no more drilling than I do my Dremel and a diamond bit work fine.
 
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