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incysor

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He earned his name, Houdini, by crawling out of the acclimation pitcher to go exploring across the hardwood floors. :?

I took a couple quick shots of him in a shallow tupperware bowl since I probably won't be seeing much of him for awhile if he's anything like the first one I had.

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dragon79

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gee that's hella awesome looking octopus...doesn't it ink everytime you attempt to grab him? Must be a pain.
 

incysor

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Nope. In fact we had to pry him off the floor last night, and he never inked.

When we got our first one, it inked once right after we put it in the tank, but it never did it again. If you're relatively quick it's not really a problem. The ink is more like jelly than liquid. When the bimac did it I just reached in the tank with a fish net and scooped it out.

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incysor

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Nope. That's it. I took those because if it's anything like the last one we had it'll probably hide in the rocks for the next couple weeks. This one is a different species, and one that's more escape-prone, so maybe it'll be out quicker than the last one. I'll post em as I get em. :wink:

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Jennie

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How tightly do you keep the tank with these? I remember reading that they were clever escape artists :lol:
 

incysor

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When we had it setup before for a bimac there were glass lids, and a rubber banded net over the overflow box. The bimac never really showed any signs of wanting to get out at all. It would come up when it saw you going to the tank, but otherwise really spent most of it's time in/on the rockwork, or playing with the whirlygig attachment on the ph. This one is a different species, and they're more know for being escape artists. We're using the same methods we used before, but I'd like to get a bit better top for it. I'm going to talk to a couple of the guys with acrylic experience/busineses about it in the next couple days.

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dragon79

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Sultanita said:
dragon79 said:
gee that's hella awesome looking octopus...doesn't it ink everytime you attempt to grab him? Must be a pain.
Indeed cute 8pus

Steve, how is Freddy the Fish doing?
Tendria que ser Maria, Maria de la playa. I should have guessed when i saw something about goldfish. Espero que todo esta bueno en su nuevo location y trabajo. Tu pescado esta bien, esta contenta Diana con Freddy.
 

incysor

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Well, we didn't see him all last night. He found a good hole to hide in for sure.

I caught him with the tanks dark this morning though. And took several pics. Only one really came out. Here's the orig, resized, and the crop from the orig.

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mihkaail

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he looks much better than in the pics in the tupperware. He seems to have gone all green; and yet he looks more afraid/shy in the tank than in the tupperware, prob cos the tupperwre offered no cover whatsoever. Great find, do you have to be really careful when doing water changes etc? octos are supposed to be sensitive bout water quality.
 

incysor

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Hmm....They are very sensitive about water quality...But the areas they have problems with aren't really things you need to worry too much about as long as you're new water is good. They don't tolerate ammonia, or metals at all. No large pH swings, the temp could be a problem if there was a huge difference, but then that goes for everything else in your tank as well. So no, I never was particularly 'careful' when doing water changes when I had the first octo. Other than making sure I did them regularly that is. 8)
I expect things will be about the same with this one.

He was definitely more active in the tupperware, but I think that was the more stressful reaction as he'd just been dumped out of a bag, and had a huge monkey pointing something at him that kept flashing...I'd be all stretched out looking for cover in that situation as well. :lol:

Having most of the tentacles kind of bunched up under them as they 'walk' over the rock or sand is very natural for most octos. They will spread out more to camoflauge themselves, or reach into cracks/crevices. But normally they tend to 'sit' on the bunced up arms. They only tend to jet water through their siphon to 'swim' when they're either pouncing on something they've been stalking, or trying to get away from something that's startled them.

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incysor

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Crap. I just typed up a nice long resonse and my computer dropped the connection.

Anyway, the natural lifespan of this species is about a year. Most of the ones that you can find in the hobby live a year or less.

This one cost me $40 at the LFS. The last one I had was captive bred, and it cost me about $20 online, but then there was another $45 shipping. I'd suggest that you get a captive bred one if you can, that way you know appoximately how long they'll live. If you get one from the LFS they could have 6-8 months or 6-8 days. For this species this one doesn't look full grown so I figured I'd have a few months at least.

The cost of the octo is just the tip of the iceberg I'm afraid. To start with you'll need a 30-40g tank minimum. You should plan it as if it's a species-only tank. They're consumate predators and you should be ready for anything you put in the tank with it to get eaten. You can go cheap with lights, because they don't like a lot of light, and lights generate heat, and you need to keep the tank under 75 if possible. I keep my house pretty cool, (70), so I've been able to keep the tanks about 74-76 with fans alone, but lots of folks seem to need a chiller. You will need to have oversize filtration for the system, and yes you HAVE to have a decent skimmer. They don't tolerate spikes of ammonia at all. Then you get into food. These guys will generally eat more than most other predators. They will sometimes take to frozen seafood, but it's very iffy. Like any other predator they generate a lot of waste. One estimate I read said they generate 3 times the ammonia of a comparible sized fish. Hence the need to over filter. I think it's totally worth it. They're smarter than cats, and the last one I had was the most interactive aquarium pet I've seen yet.

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djconn

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Man, just stumbled onto this thread. That octo is frekin awesome!

We demand more pics!

:thanks:
 

incysor

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Nope...In fact there won't be any more pics of it. I found it dead this morning.
This is the reason you shouldn't buy octos in the stores...They're usually
fully-grown and you may REALLY not have long with them at all. All my params are testing good, so I'm gonna take a sample with me to the LFS tonight to see what their tests say. It may just be a case of an old octo.

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