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EDGRAY

EDGRAY

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ok like in the other post my nitrate is 10 , nitrite 0,ph 8.0 and gravity is 1.020 so here is the question whats going on my present fish still alive but ok i got a fish on monday a yellow clown goby next day it die ok so i when to tong's back (people told me not to get fish from them but i was gonna give them i chance anyways) and they check my water and everything was ok they just told me the ph is alittle low ...mmm so they have me another yellow goby then again next day die so whats going on 3rd lost from them..... and thats weard .... like a week before that i got on monday a clown to have 2 again cause one disapeard with no trace of anything like 2 weeks ago then on tuesday same week i purchase the clown i got a cleaner shrimp and they bouth still alive so it might be tong's or my water cause normaly i get my fish at circle pet on ximeno long beach,ca and everything does fine... the only thing is that my new clown developed ich after having him a week im treating my tank with garlic 3 days now and ick still there so what might be causing stress to my fish should i check another thing in my tank like other parameter of my water?????

also if live close to long beach,ca can you recomend me were to get a yellow clown goby.. please

or is the BRISTLEWORMS that is killing them or something

look at the bristleworm in this link my looks exactly like this i think my is like 6 to 10 inches long and like 1 to 1 1/2 inch tick or wide.. and is not on sand he keep hidding under my stardust

http://www.xtalworld.com/Aquarium/hitchfaq.htm
 
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reefman23

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Ive bought 2 fish from tongs with no losses. How are you acllimating them to your tank?

As for getting a goby, I wouldnt. I think your tank is plenty stocked as is. Adding another fish would only worsen your nitrate problem.
 
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skipm

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I have to agree that your tank is pretty heavily stocked for a 12 gallon. If you have a 6-10 inch bristleworm I would take that one out, bristleworms are generally harmless but in that size I wouldn't take a chance. You may need to add some buffer to try and get your pH up. If you have corals I would also raise the specific gravity to 1.023-1.025. I would also think that your fish losses could have something to do with them not being acclimated over a long enough period of time but I can't say w/o knowing how you acclimated them. HTH, Skip
 
EDGRAY

EDGRAY

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thx for reply's well i aclimate my fish the same way all of them i take the bag empty some and then i put it in the tank and every 2 minutes i put some water of my tank to the water and until bag is full or 30 to 45 min pass then i take them out and welcome to ed's tank.... and about gravity ill do i water change today but the thing is that even with my water changes the gravity doesnt go up and i do few top offs of fresh water so i dont know another way to raise the gravity and about ph ill get something today to buffer it. and about bristle worm i had like 3 nights of trying to take him out but is too fast .... any suggestions cause he gets out of a hole from my rock and when i get close i hardly touch him in less than a second he is gone :sad: so i cant get him.... and also i notice today that my neon goby has his belly red and acting weird i think is gonna die and clowns look scared too... and i just have a cleaner shrimp , 2 clowns and 1 neon goby(for know) and i mandy that is gonna be moved to a bigger tank in this week hopefully.....
 
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sadielynn

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you may want to bump that gravity up to 1.023 as for the acclimation place your fish into a bucket run some air line tubing to the bucket from the tank and tie a knot in the tubing let it drip for about an hour or so you will want to triple the h20 volume in the bucket empty some water out of the bucket drip awhile more and then net the fish to the tank (you dont want their water in your tank this helps curb the spread of disease), the longer you drip the better . You may want to look for a small qt tank to keep the new fish in for a few days ...... For the bristle worm try a bottle with some food next to the hole that you see him in he goes in and cant get out .....hope this helps :mrgreen:
 
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reefman23

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I dont know if I am the only one that acclimates this way, but when i first get the fish home, I float the bag and open it to breathe. While it is floating, I attach it to something around the rim of the tank so it doesnt sink and I drip it. I do this by filling a large cup with water from my tank and place it on top of my lighting fixture so I can achieve a siphon. I drip it for an hour and empty some of the water out of the bag at least twice during this period. I like doing this so that the temp reamins constant...I do this with fish AND corals.

jesse
 
EDGRAY

EDGRAY

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ok ill change my way to aclimate and also what kind of food to grab the bristle attention...???
 
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mikeguerrero

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Acclimation is important for fish since a trip home from the LFS can bring down the PH. A fish jumping from low PH to higher PH in your tank can and will cause stress and if that's not bad enough, the temp difference can cave in your fish to certain doom.

Always acclimate your fish slowly or else suffer the loss of fish after fish not making it; it's almost equal to moving from a warm house to the open cold without a jacket, you feel that sudden burrr.

Only difference is that you can regulate your heat better since you are warm blooded you can recover but a fish cannot, they are cold blooded and it becomes a problem for them to undergoe this process.

Mike G
 
EDGRAY

EDGRAY

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reefman23 believe me even trying that for 3 nights and that f... still getting away... my ph is really low i tested today morning and i did have the buffer so im gonna get it after work cause i dont have time i think ph is really low like 7.2 or less.... do you think the fish will hold it until i get the buffer i thing they are gonna be with low ph for 1 day and half..... i already lost my blue neon this morning ... :cry: :cry: i hope i get on time with the buffer before my 2 clowns die
 
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mikeguerrero

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Edgray,

If your clowns are at danger, I advise you to have your LFS hold your two clowns until your tank matures or is stable.

Playing with PH up/down is very dangerous and can wipe out your whole tank if you don't do it with care.

Be sure to follow the instructions down to the wire. I don't like to mess with chemicals that promise this or that, if your PH is down something is wrong, it's a signal to correct it.

But simply adding up/down Ph buffer is masking the issue. It might be too quickly that you added the fish and the bioload came into play.

Just back up just a little and trace back your footsteps and you should be okay.

Mike G
 
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incysor

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There are lots of threads about building/using bristleworm traps, but I've never gotten them to work very well. However a bit of filter floss, or scub pad rubber banded around a piece of shrimp left over night was crawling with them the next morning, and I just lifted it out and caught the little buggers.

What are you using to test your water? Perhaps the reagents in your test kit have gone bad. How stable is your water temp?

Do you have heaters, other PHs, anything else electrical that could be causing stray elelectricty be leaking into the water?

It could just be that the clown gobies are being caught using cyanide, and they're gonna die no matter what you do. I've tried 3 of them over the last year. The first one never ate. The next 2 both ate at the store, and in my tank, but slowly starved no matter how much they ate.

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dragon79

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incysor said:
From an earlier post discussing acclimation methods.

http://nanotank.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... dures#3142

Raising your salinity is easy. Just make up a batch of salt water, and use it as your top-off water until your salinity is back up to 1.025. Then go back to using fresh RO/DI water to top off.

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hey incysor ! Talk about digging into the past, that has to do with me when I was starting off as a beginner a year ago or so. I remember it well as it's where the whole thing started with "phischy" "busting my balls"

LOL!! Aww man...am i ever so red!

You should have dug up the one where I learned from it all and did the correct way of dripline acclimating. I had pictures of how i did it and everything.

I stink with the search button, as I can't even find my own posts sometimes, but I know it's out there somewhere, with pictures as to how I acclimate my fish.
 
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incysor

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I just looked for the thread you're describing, but didn't have any luck doing a quick search with you as author and acclimate.

Do you remember if you described what you were acclimating?

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dragon79

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yeah I found it, but the pic links are dead now, so I didn't bother. (i had to do it the long way. I went through all my postings, and that was over 70+ pages!!)

i have others of when I acclimated my clowns, but it doesn't describe how i acclimated them, it just shows them in the tuffleware.
 
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