Starting FLATWORMS STAGE

EDGRAY

New Member
HI,

Dear friend reefers like a week or so i notice something unual in my tank... so after looking alot of picture and jesses flatworm pics i realize that was truelly FW... so any recomendations now that im on time cause i've seen like 5 of them so far...

also one is on the arms of my frogspawn do you think it will harm the frogspawn or corals????

i knew that soon i was gonna get them cause it seems that is a process that we all go throught when tank is maturing ... so any good ideas cause i dotn want to quarantee my tank or take everything out...you know something that i could do or add .. that will be fish,invertebrates & coral safe ???
 

Phischy

New Member
use flat worm exit. FWE will nuke the little buggers, do it now before the really get a foothold. Siphon out as many as you can, dose the tank. use a powerhead to create a 'storm' in your tank so the juice gets into all the nooks and crannies. After 20 mins, do a 20% H2O change.

Repeat process in a week even if you don't see any.
 

EDGRAY

New Member
OK phischy doing that the fish,invertebrates will be ok during that process???
if so lets see if i got it :

add the FWE put an extra pump on the main tank to creat a amazing current/flow so thing gets in all the areas so no dead areas then leave it there for 20 minutes after that make the water change and thats it then in a week again!!

other thing do i have to remove carbon and poly filter???

so do that and everythig will be fine....???
 

EDGRAY

New Member
brandon said:
i have heard that 6 line wrasse will take them but then the wrasse might become agressive....
R u crazy the wrasse will eat my sexy and will attack all my fish and is my nano is way to far for hes need!!!

bad couzin ... :lol3:

and well i havent hear that wrasse do that only ... the velvet nudi he will take them as a baquium but i want to skip that...
 
A

Anonymous

Guest
sorry to hear that ed - i battled them for a long time but am still flatworm free as far as i can tell, so you can win ....... FWE is a good product but needs to be used with care and don't do what i did and wait till you have too many of them - the dead worm juice is very toxic. hit them hard with a double dose and run a lot of fresh carbon. start the carbon right after you see the little buggers dieing. also do a water change and suck as many out as you can while they are starting to die. if you can't find FWE marine depot has it.
 

EDGRAY

New Member
Well J&D i need more specification im kinda dumb (stupid) and well i dont have that many i guess i've seen like around five or so... i been taking them off the glass and sand so i think they are starting cause i dont see alot of em just few few ones so... ok from you i understand this

FWE recommend 1 dose u said double dose add it to the tank with alot of flow so no dead spots after some time no longer than 20min.. look if the bugger if i see one is dieing take them out and put new carbon in there and then follow with the water change then dose it again in a week ..

i got it like that or i miss something please ... especifications... or instruccions for a baby lol.. :oops:
 

reefman23

New Member
Remove as many as you an with a siphon and airline tubing. then do like i did in my FWE thread... thatll kill all the FW for sure! Also, MAKE SURE YOU DO A SPECIAL FWE DIP ON THE FROGSPAWN FRAG THAT YOU ARE SELLING! You want to share your corals, not your FW!

Jesse
 
A

Anonymous

Guest
yea your on the right track and in the end i did what jesse did cuz mine got out of control.......... if your sure there are just a few then dosing the tank and running carbon should do it. just be sure you only have a few....... i lost several corals (no zoas just SPS's but......still) and all my fish when i dosed my tank but i had litterally millions cuz i waited too long and this was in the 125, i didn't lose anything in the 35 when i dosed it. using jesses method on the 125 finally i didn't lose anything but it was a whole weekend project and as i said i haven't seen one since Xing my fingers of course cuz i hate those little bas@@ds.
 

reefman23

New Member
That reminds me Ed... make sure you remove your carbon BEFORE you dose the tank with FWE... then put it back in after you are done to remove any toxins that may have been released by the worms.

Jesse
 

EDGRAY

New Member
Jesse thx for the FWE .... so tomorrow at 5pm the war will begin with the FW... and kill :evil: :evil: all those buggers... :twisted: ... so wish me luck....

and well i still have to look for the FWE (Salifer) directions in the web ..... but if anyone wants to help me looking it will be a big help thx..... :mrgreen:
 

reefman23

New Member
Here you go Eddie:

Flatworm - eXit


Flatworm eXit itself is quite safe to fish and invertebrates.
However, the body fluids of flatworms can be toxic to some reef inhabitants when present in a too high concentration. This body fluid is sometimes excreted when flatworms die.

So when you use this product it is important to do the following first:

1] Siphon out as many flatworms as possible.

2] Keep sufficient fresh activated carbon in a canister ready.

3] Turn off UV, ozone and remove activated carbon. Keep the skimmer turned on.

Important remarks
Below given remarks are a.o. meant to reduce the amount of the flatworm’s toxic body fluids in the water.

Many people have treated their reef tank(s) successfully using Flatworm eXit without any problems. The most important factors are reducing the number of flatworms before commencing with the treatment and reducing the amount of the flatworm’s body fluids, released when they die, as fast as possible.

Do not underestimate the number of flatworms in your system. In a few cases a significant number of flatworms can be hiding in for example crevices. Blow in such and any other potential hiding places water to blow any flatworm out of there. For that purpose you can use a powerhead or a turkey baster. Siphon out those flatworms as well.

Furthermore do not underestimate the amount of toxic body fluids these flatworms can excrete. This can be reduced significantly by really siphoning out the flatworms before commencing with the treatment. Further significant reduction is accomplished by siphoning out as many dead flatworms as you can.

Any body fluids released by the dead flatworms in the water has to be reduced further by using about 1 pound of fresh high quality carbon for every 50 gallons. The carbon has to be used in a canister with a sufficient forced water flow.

Take sufficient time for treating the tank. That is, do not treat your tank in a hurry. Also take time to monitor your tank for at least 6 hours after the treatment.

It is also wise to have at least 25% water ready for a water change if required.

Dosage:
Read all the above text before commencing with the treatment!

- 1 drop for every 4 liters or 1 gallon.
The dropper contains approx. 300 drops (10 ml). The dropper cap holds approx. 90 drops.
So 1 cap full is good for 360 liters or 90 gallons.

Add it in a high flow area of the tank. If you want to treat a refugium only and if it’s volume is too small for using a powerhead then mixing should be done manually.

- It should start to work within 30 minutes.

- If within 45 minutes no visible death of flatworms occurs add 50% more.

- As soon as the flatworms start to die commence with the activated carbon to take out any toxic body fluids. Also see the above given important remarks.

- After an hour or so you can turn any UV or ozone on again.

Keep out of the reach of children! Only for aquarium hobby use.
 

EDGRAY

New Member
OK... thx jesse for saving me time .. ill read it right now.... :cry: thx for be so helpful to me .... i really apreciate your time and help :mrgreen: thx buddy....
 

EDGRAY

New Member
Ok ... war started today i did like around 12-14 drops of salifer FWE... waited 25 minutes and i sow 2 dead ones so i run my carbon and during that time my snails were freaking out their noises(trunk) were all curly and they were upside down like they were dying so i freak out too so i waited 5 minutes more so that was 30-35 minutes with the FWE... and then my 75% water change.... hour later eveyone is acting normal from fish to corals all opening like nothing happend thank god.... so no signs of many dead FW i guess i didnt have that much or something but just in case im gonna do a double dose and for more time just as DR. JESSE (reefman)(and J&D) recommended to be sure that does buggers die :twisted: ....
 

mikeguerrero

Active Member
Ed,

With your tank being assesible by hand, I would pull out all the snails and hermits that you can before you re-introduce the FWE...

Place them in a small container with tank water and when the nuke is done and you do your water change, place them back in...

I wouldn't risk it again, sounds like you stunned them the first time...

MG
 

EDGRAY

New Member
Well yeah thats a great idea :idea: never thought about that next time ill feed so all the nassarius go up in the open gonna take them out in a quarantine bottle :lol: so im more calm... and well hermits seem fine but if die better sick of them always bumping with my little frags :twisted: and then everything was ok...

Thx for the sugestion mike....you bet im gonna do it next time ... just a thing what if if..there are some FW in their bodies???? :?:
 
A

Anonymous

Guest
exactly ed........ i think your better off not pulling them out you could get reintroduction - they made it the first time so the next time there will be less worms to die and less toxin so they should make it again. i would wait longer next time though before the water change an hour or so....
 

mikeguerrero

Active Member
Ed,

Flatworms are visible by sight, you will see them on the shell, I had them before. Remove the ones you see on the shell and place the snell in QT...
 

EDGRAY

New Member
WELL im still not sure what was wrong with them really cause they were not that many dead FW so i guess was more the medication than the toxic of the FW but i think im gonna do it as is... not taking nothing out i dont want to be worring about having some surviver in their shell or body...and if nassarius die well i have alot of them :lol: ..

anyways yeah J&D im gonna leave it longer it just was my first time and i freak looking the snails act like that but since i try it and nothing bad happend im gonna leave it longer and then water change you think 1hour will be more than enough??? or longer?????

and what you think like wait 45minutes and then run my carbon and so on until 1 hour or more.... or what u say???
 
Top