Regarding Biocube 14gallon

dotc0m

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GREAT read. Thanks for the info... I love the pictures in them. I know I'll be spending a lot of time on those last two links especially.

Estimated on arrival is Monday the RO/DI tank (Mighty Mite - $100)

Tuesday - Aquapod 24g Stand, Stealth Heater, PH testing kit

Wednesday - Koralia nano, Maxjet 1200, 24g HQI tank and other stuff

Hopefully next weekend after setting it all up, I can go buy the instant ocean salt, 25lb's of live rock, and how many lbs of live sand? I know that a certain type of bag has expiration dates on it but I forgot what they were called. Is that the recommended type of LS?

Thanks for the click!
Tony

p.s. Can't wait to post pics
 

KidNano

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when you buy the LS just make sure it's wet. If you can't see water in the bag then look for another. At minimum make sure the sand is moist and you can see it clumping together. Most of the time the bags are punctured one way or another and the sand will dry out there by losing it's life. I believe that any kind of live sand you'll buy in a bag will have an expiration date.

congrats on your all your purchases. Let me know how that Mighty Mite works out for you. I'm getting ready to buy an RO/DI system but it's a lot bigger and more $$. Not sure if it's necessary.

Thanks.
 

dotc0m

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Thanks Cris, I need an emergency "look over" on some certain things. For some reason I have been missing important facts that I have caught gists of here and there, and just need some quick clarifications.

I bought a test kit only for pH, I also need it for cal and alk, correct? If so I need to put another order at petsolutions or the drs...

I will also use this opportunity to buy a refractometer since I didn't get it last time and settled for a hydrometer.

Also, what kind of salt should I use? Instant ocean is available at my LFS but I could order them online as well if there is better.

Main concern is that I totally ignored the alk and cal levels that a water needs to be at. I also need a good test kit that can cover all these because of my lack of compatibality with such difficult procedures lol.

Any help is welcoem, thanks!

Tony
 

dotc0m

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Also, I am giong to use one of the chambers for filler floss on top of carbon (probably Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Activated Filter Carbon). I will probably keep them in the filter fine mesh bags -- anyone have experience with these? Do you just use one and throw it out after?

P.S. How do we vacuum our substrates? I can't seem to find any threads pertaining "how to's" or what to use. Is it just natural vacuuming or do we aid the substrate when need be?
 

KidNano

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A hydrometer will be fine for you at this point. Also calc and Alk not entirely neccesary untill you have coral that are very dependent on these two. If you keep up with your water changes they will stay well enough for what your starting off with.

YOu need to test for Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, PH and you SG which the hydrometer will be fine. IF you have the money then go ahead and get it. The carbon should definitely be in a bag. If you can rinse them out good enough then reuse them. I do. Never asked anyone else if they reuse them. I just set up a phosban reactor that I run Carbon in as well as PHosban.

A regular aquarium vacuum will be just fine for vacuuming your substrate. Don't worry about that untill you complete your cycle and get some fish that are actually polluting it.
 

spanko

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Wow you are doing well for a startup. You will love the tank you are getting especially with the metal halide.
1. Normally the standard is 1-1.5 lbs. of live rock per gallon of water. Use this as a base decision but remember that you want rock that is more porous. This is to facilitate the aerobic and anaerobic bacteria needed for your biological filtration. And because you want the porous rock it will be lighter and larger than the more heavier dense rock.
You will see many options for your rock. Uncured, cured, base. In short uncured comes to you the fastest directly from the ocean. It has all the life on it that it had in the ocean but some of this life has died in the shipping process. Because of this the rock will stink, when you put it in your tank it will take longer to cycle and your water will be dirtier. The good thing is that it will have much more life in it that you can have survive the cycle and get some interesting things.
Cured rock is the same thing but the fish store has done some of the dirty work for you. They keep it in bins in their store and they put up with the dieoff and everything that goes along with it. Your tank should cycle quicker with cured rock however you will not have the same diversity you would have with uncured rock. Cured rock is usually most expensive.
Base rock is dead rock with no life on it. It is naturally the least expensive.
Most people in an effort to save money will buy maybe up to half of their total rock as base then buy cured or uncured rock for the balance. Eventually the base rock will become alive and you will not be able to tell the difference between it and the live rock. Again you will not have quite the diversity as you would buying uncured rock totally.

2. The same standard applies to live sand. About 1 lb. per gallon of water. You can get live or just dry. Most just get dry and let the live rock seed it also.

When you get your tank post here again as you will have it in front of you and we can better help with the setup of the sump area.

A refractometer is a fine choice if you can fit it into your budget now. Also a thermometer, and the ammonia nitrite nitrate and ph tests.

There is no need to vacuum you sand. If you get the correct clean up crew they will do it for you. Also if you feed sparingly once you get your fish there should not be much that needs to be vacuumed. We can talk about this more later also.

For the most part you are going to get the tank, test kits, refractometer, salt mix, rock and sand. Put it all together and then you will be waiting for about 4 to 6 weeks before adding anything else. During that time you will be testing, reading, looking at the rock and seeing all kinds of strange and wonderful things pop up, reading, possibly doing a water change or two, oh yeah did I mention reading?

Good luck and welcome to the addiction.
 

KidNano

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Some people will tell you to vacuum........ Others will tell you not to. I have the larger grain coral sand and it is totally necessary for me to vacuum it once a month or so. I just do about a 1/4 of it at a time.
 

dotc0m

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Yeah, I kind of splurged on my savings this christmas season, treating myself to a little project. I acutally didn't get the API carbon. I ended up getting seachem purigen for the mechanical filtering part. I also got a 50lb bag of Tropic Marine Seaslt because I heard great reviews from it, and I will definitely follow up and hopefully touchbase with the same satisfaction :D

I went with the "go all out in the beginning" policy because I want growth in this hobby without having to repurchase upgrades. I will definietly be taking it slow. Tomorrow the tank will be arriving (hopefully in one piece). The stand is already here and already set up, and the RO/DI has been running into the wee hours of the night hoping to reach somewhere near 22-23 gallons by the time the tank comes tomorrow.

I did get a refractometer, the test kit from red sea the marine type, and hopefully all the other essentials. I'm very anxious about tomorrow. I will be at work so I told my girlfriend to come over and camp out the house since about 5-6 packages will be arriving (some including her christmas gifts -- hopefully she doesn't think to check) and I need someone to accept them.

My main concern is the Aquapod coming without any cracks in it. Always an issue I hear...
 

dotc0m

New Member
So my stuff came today... had about 5 packages delivered, 4 which were the aquarium supplies.

Very excited - I still ahve one more shipment coming this Friday. Today I got the maxijet 1200, koralia nano, the stealth heater, and my sunpod 150w!

Here's the heartbreaker -- My aquapod came broken... with a huge crack down the left side. I was expecting it too, because I know that's an issue with a lot of delivered items. I have to say the item was POORLY shipped. The actually aquapopd box inanother larger box, and stuffed with brown paper. It's coming from california, and I'm in NY so I'd assume they woudl step it up =\

I ordered from gina's aquarium which I know is reputable. But I'm very sad just becasue of the delay. I toko the day off from work today too. I sent an email to them already, so I'm gona call them again tomorrow since they're closed now and reconcile with them on a resolution. What I want to try asking is maybe doing an over night shipping on another aquapod if they can replace the unit... I see no sense in sending the broken one back, but you never know these days.

I am hoping they can send the next with over night shipping at least, and I would see if they are willing to split the costs... just so it cuts the time of it getting beaten up in transit.

Let me know if anyone has had experience with broken tanks during shipment.
 
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