Lighting/Hood Help

cadeucsb

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So as far as the underwater hardware, I think im set. Now i am trying to decide if i should just pickup a basic $10 10g aquarium from the LFS, but if I do that, my question is: what should i do about lighting/hood. I live in Colorado, which is really dry and evaporation might be bad if i did something like just a PC light bar hovering above the tank... but I am not sure about where to get a hood for a standard 10g aquarium or what kind (bulb wise) to buy... any suggestions?
 

incysor

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You can generally buy wooden hoods for a 10g at petco, petsmart, heck probably even walmart. Unless you put glass or acrylic over the top of the tank it's not going to slow your evap rates much though, and the glass/acrylic will block a good percentage of the light.

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djconn

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The problem with those wooden hoods it that it will melt if you mod it out and put in PC lighting. I wouldn't suggest it. I would suggest getting a good auto top-off float switch and not worry about evaporation.
 

cadeucsb

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i like the idea of the hood to block the view of the HOB filter etc... what would be your suggestion then? one of the hover over the top light? mind u i am trying to be as cheap as possible without sacrificing quality..with the ability for PC light
 

incysor

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djconn said:
The problem with those wooden hoods it that it will melt if you mod it out and put in PC lighting. I wouldn't suggest it. I would suggest getting a good auto top-off float switch and not worry about evaporation.
That can certainly be problematic...How much lighting are you planning on?

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cadeucsb

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im not entirely sure... ill be going with about 15lbs of live rock, not sure what i will be adding later so i want to make sure i get the correct lighting in the first place (as in enough to support what I might want to do)
 

incysor

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cadeucsb said:
im not entirely sure... ill be going with about 15lbs of live rock, not sure what i will be adding later so i want to make sure i get the correct lighting in the first place (as in enough to support what I might want to do)
The easiest way to determine the lights you want is by looking at all the corals at the LFS, or the online vendors, and determine which ones you like. Then you can figure out what they're lighting needs are, and plan your setup. Unless you know what type of corals you want to keep, there's no way to tell you what type of lighting you'll need.

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cadeucsb

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now does that mean bulbs or light fixture and all? is there a lightfixture/ hover light fixture that i can pick up now and pick the bulb later?
 

incysor

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cadeucsb said:
now does that mean bulbs or light fixture and all? is there a lightfixture/ hover light fixture that i can pick up now and pick the bulb later?
Different bulbs are not interchangeable with the same fixture.

If you want to keep corals in a nano. You basically have 3 choices when it comes to light.

PC - Power Compact Fluorescent. These are small high-output
fluroescent lamps.
T5 - Another type of small fluorescent, you generally want the HO, or
high-output ones.
MH - Metal Halide. Usually these are not kept in a hood over a nano
because they are brighter/hotter so they're usually suspended over
an open-top tank.

Again. The types of coral you want to keep will determine the kind of lighting you'll need. By far the majority of nano tanks use PC lamps.

All of the types come in different sizes, and different wattages. So a 32w PC light fixture will not run a 65w PC lamp, and vice-versa.

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Phischy

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Conn, I'm confused as to how exactly wood is going to melt? Cheap plastic, yes, wood....maybe you're using something I'm not.

As for lights...go look at what you want and figure out what it's requirements for lighting/flow are. Like incysor suggests.

Also consider this: these tanks tend not to be very cheap. Your hardware, in the long run, is going to be a drop in the bucket. If you know what you want you may want to look at classifieds for people selling their setups, this is by far the cheapest way to go and the route I've taken to get my hardware when possible.

I'd check out the denver listing of craigslist and search for a local reefers forum to find stuff that way.

For evaporation, you could also just use a dripline tomaintain water levels. It's not perfect but it does cut down on tons of water maintence and both doesn't use electricty and won't fail and flood your tank. It sounds like you need to do more research. For me, from the time I decided I was going to build a tank to when I first filled it was over a year of research and waiting. Now it's known i take my time but I'd do more thinking about what you want.
 

dragon79

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incysor said:
Different bulbs are not interchangeable with the same fixture.

If you want to keep corals in a nano. You basically have 3 choices when it comes to light.

PC - Power Compact Fluorescent. These are small high-output
fluroescent lamps.
T5 - Another type of small fluorescent, you generally want the HO, or
high-output ones.
MH - Metal Halide. Usually these are not kept in a hood over a nano
because they are brighter/hotter so they're usually suspended over
an open-top tank.

Again. The types of coral you want to keep will determine the kind of lighting you'll need. By far the majority of nano tanks use PC lamps.

All of the types come in different sizes, and different wattages. So a 32w PC light fixture will not run a 65w PC lamp, and vice-versa.

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Is there a T3 too or am I thinking of something else or just entirely wrong. (oh boy here I go entering another domain I dont know much about......I'm off to the web for now) :p
 

incysor

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dragon79 said:
Is there a T3 too or am I thinking of something else or just entirely wrong. (oh boy here I go entering another domain I dont know much about......I'm off to the web for now) :p
The only one's I've heard of are t12, t8, and t5.

T3=Terminator 3.... :wink:

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dragon79

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ha ha, yah, I must have been confused with something else. I did read some stuff on T3 lighting though, although it was different from anything being discussed here.

I did confirm the lighting types at nanocustoms, but they use the abbreviations of "PL" I'm guessing like Power light or something. I looked in that category and saw Jali, Helio, and JBJ PC
 

Phischy

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Again, they type of light you want is dependant solely on what you want to put in the tank. Just want fish? Then get a normal output flourescent.

Want soft corals, bump it up to PC 30-55w dual (10k & atinic).

Want LPS, maybe even more lighting, want SPS? then even more plus more flow.

So you need to determine what you want to put into the tank first to make sure you build it right before adding corals.
 

cadeucsb

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the best all around for what i plan to do will probably be PC lighting... but again, that decided, where can i get one like the link in the previous post for a standard 10g (18" wide i believe)
 

incysor

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cadeucsb said:
ok, so i just bought me a cheapy glass 10g tank from petsmart.. no hood etc...

i think i will do a light like this: http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=9871&N=2004+113345


any suggestions for a 10gal variety?
None of the ones listed on that page will fit over a 10g. The shortest they have listed is 24". A standard 10g tank is 20".

This is what lots of folks use. You will want the mounting legs.

http://hellolights.com/201xcoaqpcho.html

If you want to do a canopy, you can get this and mount it inside the canopy.

http://hellolights.com/185cfquadret.html

I'm using one of each. I bought the first one from hellolights, and it's sitting over my wife's 10g.

The second one is one I bought used, and installed in the canopy/hood of my 40g cube.

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djconn

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I would go with the first one as well. Nice, clean look to it. You will def. need the mounting legs but you can wait on the moonlight.

Phischy, I was assuming that he was referring to the plastic 'fake' wood hoods that you see at all the places metioned such as petco, etc. Those will melt in a heartbeat. Petco does not carry any true wood canopies that would be suitable for our type of systems to my knowledge.
 
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