knobby star fish

jcs11236

New Member
hey guys ---are you familar with this type of star fish

they have it on liveaquria.com
its called knob star fish?

well to make a long story short--i bought one of these star fish from my local wholesaler--he told me they were reef safe, so i bought him but now that i checked liveaquria and saltwaterfish.com --they both say he is not reef safe

wat do you guys think or know about this starfish

he is so cool looking and he is doing so well in my tank--im just scared im going to come home and see all my polyps eatin up

what do you guys suggest??
help

thanks
 

incysor

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Most starfish that have large projecting knobs are NOT reef safe.
The two most common types would be Red General Stars, and Chocolate Chip Stars.

If this is the one you're talking about, it's normally called a Red General in this area, and it's NOT reef safe. FWIW, It would be easier for us to comment if you posted the links you've found that are what you're talking about. :)

http://liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Dis ... pCatId=562

This is the other one on liveaquaria, and it's also not reef safe. Although if you had an entirely SPS tank it might be doable. I wouldn't risk it though.

http://liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Dis ... CatId=1748

If it's this one, then it's reportedly reef safe. These are available occasionally, but in 4yrs I've only seen one in the LFS twice.

http://www.meerwasser-lexikon.de/eng/76 ... phorus.htm

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incysor

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If it's the second one then it's not reef safe, and will eat soft corals/sponges/tube worms/etc...

I'd call the store explain to the manager what the problem is and try to return it for store credit. They'll likely not give you a full refund for it, unless they are an exceptional store, and have gotten to know you. Usually you take quite a loss on anything you want to return to a store for credit.

Just another reason not to impulse-buy for your tanks.

Everyone learns this lesson the hard way at some time or another. ;-)

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jcs11236

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no!!!!!!! lolol

sorry

the second link and third link look so much alike but i truly belive its the third one--mine star fish is more orange looking --

what is the third one called and where could i find more info on him so i can confirm its him---i think its the third mine has no grey or dark red --its orange

i only paid 10 bucks for him
 

drty811

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whatever one that it is, youll want to take him back. my freind had a bad experience with a star like that. ended up eating most of his corals. IMO i wouldnt chance it and just take it back ASAP. like incysor said youll want to do your research before buying.
 

incysor

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Look up the name. It's above the pic, on the pic, under the pic, and in the URL... :D

Echinaster echinophorus

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Abarnswell

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Just another reason not to impulse-buy for your tanks.
Good advice. I have started taking my Marine ID books with me to the LFS when I go, so I can look things up and read about them while I'm standing there. Unfortunately, some of the books contradict each other, and that doesn't help.

I am so amazed at what some LFSs will sell folks. I have seen a number of non-reef safe inverts in the reef tanks. Starfish are particularly bad examples. Most, if not all, are either NOT reef safe or can't survive long in a small reef tank because they will deplete their food supply quickly, then starve.
 

incysor

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Abarnswell said:
I am so amazed at what some LFSs will sell folks. I have seen a number of non-reef safe inverts in the reef tanks. Starfish are particularly bad examples. Most, if not all, are either NOT reef safe or can't survive long in a small reef tank because they will deplete their food supply quickly, then starve.
The worst thing I've seen was at the largest most expensive LFS in town.

I watched a family load their new 180g oceanic tank/stand/canopy/sump/several boxes of LR/etc.... into a suburban. They only had one bag of salt. So far it isn't a big deal.
Then I watched them load up 4 BOXES of coral and fish. They had angels, tangs, butterflies, clowns, gobies, a bunch of different LPS and softies, and even a clam.

At this particular store all of this easily came to over ten grand.

No one that I saw tried to mention to them that there's such a thing as a cycle, or that even if your tank was cycled, that dumping that much livestock into it at once isn't a good idea, or that a lot of the fish weren't compatible together, or reef-safe.

I actually went out in the parking lot and tried to explain to them, but they didn't speak very good english, only portugese, and my spanish is so weak that it wasn't any help, and on top of it they were very arrogant.
I was really hoping that they already had a tank, and were just setting up another one. Nope.

The salt they had wouldn't have been enough to get the salinity up to the level to properly cycle the LR. Every living thing they bought had to have died.

We have 13 stores in Houston that have decent saltwater departments. There are several other smaller ones that have a tank or two. This isn't counting PETCO, (cause they suck), and we had 3 others that went out of business over the last couple years. When I say that you can't trust your LFS, it's because I've seen LOTS of other examples of stores lying to people, making up info that's just wrong, selling people stuff that they don't need, etc... Of course we do have some really good stores, with some very honest, knowledgeable, responsible people. But the only way to be able to get to where you can judge that is by doing a lot of research on your own, so that you can figure out who you can trust for advice and who you can't.

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travis

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A good rule of thumb when buying a reef safe starfish; is any one with spines/knobs or looks like it has a bony skeleton is not going to be reef safe. A very beautiful reef safe starfish are fromia's they come in an shallow spectrum of colors but stay small and can survive if the conditions are adequate. Take care --travis
 
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