ich problem

drty811

New Member
as of this morning i noticed that my yellow watchman goby has ich and i think velvet. my redheaded goby is fine but i want to treat the tank anyways, so heres my questions:

what would i use to treat him?
do i treat the whole tank?
can corals get any of this?
 

incysor

New Member
Here's the garlic method I've used successfully copied from another board. I've posted it a couple times on here, but it took me a few minutes to find it again. Obviously in a nano you don't need to use as much.

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I don't soak their food but instead add it directly to the tank. For my 75 gallon tank I would take 6 to 8 nice-sized cloves of garlic, crush them as flat as humanly possible and then mince the flattened garlic. The goal is to try to do as much cellular damage to the garlic as possible. I scrape it all together and add it to half a cup or so of tank water and let it steep for 15 - 20 minutes. Allicin, the important component of garlic, is very short-lived so don't skip out and buy any store preparations of garlic. Also, don't let it sit for more than an hour or so. Pour the tank water through a small mesh strainer (or you can just strain the garlic out by hand) into your tank. I like to press out all the liquid of the soaked garlic too. Any bits and pieces that get into your tank are likely to be eaten by your tang, which is a good thing. I know it may be hard, but try to pour the garlic water on or near the affected fish. You should notice less cysts on your fish. You can repeat this for a few days. The only time I ever overdosed a tank was a 20 gallon tank with a very deep sandbed that had little gobies in it. I bet there wasn't 10 gallons of water in it between the sand and live rock taking up so much space. I added about 6 cloves' worth of garlic to that little tank that already didn't have much filtration on it and it nuked some of the gobies. On my 75 gallon tank, I've added as much as an entire pod of garlic to it without any ill effects on my fish, inverts, anemones, or corals. They might look ticked off for awhile but they'll get over it. Don't worry if the garlic temporarily gives a slight haze to the water. It will all filter out later in the day.

Hope that helps! I saved a horribly infected purple tang from certain death with garlic, and since then have used it several other times too, all successfully.
 

incysor

New Member
drty811 said:
what would i use to treat him?
do i treat the whole tank?
can corals get any of this?
See above post.

Yes you treat the whole tank.

Ich will not affect your corals.

Ich is present in pretty much any reef tank. Most fish can naturally fight it off as long as their immune systems are healthy, although some fish are more prone to outbreaks than others. There are different stages in the parasites life cycle when it is in the water, or in the sand/LR. Using a QT tank can help to keep it out of your display tank, but most people don't QT every coral, and piece of rock. If you don't do this along with new fish you're likely to have an outbreak at one time or another.

I've used kick-ich with excellent results as well, FWIW. Garlic is a lot cheaper though, especially when you're talking about a large system.

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drty811

New Member
thats great ...thanks for the insight B. ill try it later. im a big italian eater and cooker so i have plenty of garlic. thanks again
 

incysor

New Member
leaffish75 said:
if you soak krill in the garlic will it hurt corals if they eat it?
I doubt it.

I've added frozen food to the garlic/water mix before and haven't noticed any adverse affects on anything.

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incysor

New Member
drty811 said:
how long should i dose the tank and how often?everyday, every other, ect...
I think I dosed mine every day. Made the house smell like garlic for about a week. But then I was dosing 130g, or so. :)

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sadielynn

New Member
drty811
I may be a little late at this stage to add any input
but some where I read that you can use garlic gels from walmart (make sure it is garlic only) we treat our tank 1 time a month as a preventive , what we do is cut the gel tab open squeeze onto food let soak over night feed next day you will get some oily deposits on the surface of the h20 but that will filter out I have had good luck with this too for stressed fish (I have also used the powder not that great but does work ) the gel tabs keep for up to 5 years (if kept in cool dark storage) and you only need 1 at a time we keep it in the feeding pouch for their food . Just my thoughts we also used fresh water dips too to help
 

drty811

New Member
well as of today both my fish have died....ich over took them, i think. they where getting better and all the ich spotts were gone. i woke up and they where gone....well i guess its time for some new fishies....
 

caznano1

New Member
Sorry didnt read all its 5:30am i read it all later, I thought garlic just prevents white spot???
No hun it wont affect ur corals, but copper will!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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