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fishcrazee

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Thx again!!!
've also seen dwarf seahorses, but frankly they're a TON of work, and you have about 6-7 months of research to do on them if you want to try it. If you can find ORA bred/raised seahorses, one or two might be a decent choice. They do well in low-flow environments. I'd do some serious research on them though.
REALLY?!?!?!?! In an AC fuge or should I make a better one? I've been doing research on them for like 2 years! I have the only book ever written purely on dwarves. Also if you look at seahorse.org you can see that it was my original plan to set up a dwarf tank in an eclipse 6 but my parents shut me down :( so I'm hoping to get lucky on a nano cause it's more colorful and my parents like "seeable" fish with colors and stuff... I gotta listen to them too cause I'm only 15 and can't get stuff online or make my own money yet... I think maybe I'll make a 6 gallon sump for the dwarves with low current and no hydroids or apista... so I gotta wait like a year or two to make sure that any that came with the live rock/sand will die. Thx for all the help and also I don't think I'll go with a clam then... (is it possible for the corals to be growing on the living clam??? I think I saw that before and want to know if it'll harm it even if I'm not going to get one) :D :D :D
 

fishcrazee

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ok.... I decided against dwarves in the fuge... I think the problems would be a lot worse so I 'll go back to the AC 500(110) as a fuge. I think I'm gonna use it as a mysid breeding ground. All I gotta do is drop flakes in there and the babies can hide in macro and the rubble... hopefully enough live also have any of you guys seen this offer: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW
I was looking through ebay and I saw some really nice cheap corals then I saw shipping... it was like $40 to ship a tiny frag that cost like $13...
 

Sugar Magnolia

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shipping on that deal was $129. Theoretically the idea is good, but with the LR shipped 2nd day, even if it's packed with damp newspaper there'll be some die off, which means an ammmonia spike and ultimately nitrates...and he then plans to send the inverts and corals a couple days later? It has the potential to be disasterous to some of the creatures in the 2nd shipment. SO, asking to hold the second shipment for a couple weeks will cost you another $10. (rip-off IMO)
 

incysor

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fishcrazee said:
Thx again!!!
've also seen dwarf seahorses, but frankly they're a TON of work, and you have about 6-7 months of research to do on them if you want to try it. If you can find ORA bred/raised seahorses, one or two might be a decent choice. They do well in low-flow environments. I'd do some serious research on them though.
REALLY?!?!?!?! In an AC fuge or should I make a better one? I've been doing research on them for like 2 years! I have the only book ever written purely on dwarves. Also if you look at seahorse.org you can see that it was my original plan to set up a dwarf tank in an eclipse 6 but my parents shut me down :( so I'm hoping to get lucky on a nano cause it's more colorful and my parents like "seeable" fish with colors and stuff... I gotta listen to them too cause I'm only 15 and can't get stuff online or make my own money yet... I think maybe I'll make a 6 gallon sump for the dwarves with low current and no hydroids or apista... so I gotta wait like a year or two to make sure that any that came with the live rock/sand will die. Thx for all the help and also I don't think I'll go with a clam then... (is it possible for the corals to be growing on the living clam??? I think I saw that before and want to know if it'll harm it even if I'm not going to get one) :D :D :D
Sorry, your question about being able to keep something in the fuge made me think you were another person setting up two tanks with one as a fuge. No I don't think that the AC500 is a viable space for seahorses, or really any thing else that you don't want in your main tank. I've seen clams with corals growing all around them. I've also seen clams that had different polyps growing on the outside of their shells, zoos, gsp, yellow polys, etc...

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fishcrazee

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oh.... Sorry but I said I decided to make the fuge a mysis,copepod,amhipod,etc. breeding ground.... Also I went to the lfs and was looking at some of the corals.... A lot were really big and was wondering if there is a good site to buy a lot of frags that don't cost a lot as well as cheap shipping.... Also one lfs had ginat clams(cant tell the speices) but it had a I think BTA on it's side and looked like it was touching the clam... Would that harm it? Also if polyps and stuff grow on it won't the sweeper tentacles harm it as well? Lastly how a 10 gal tank how much of DT's live phytoplankton should I feed in a day or should it be weekly feedings? Thx!!!
 

incysor

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fishcrazee said:
oh.... Sorry but I said I decided to make the fuge a mysis,copepod,amhipod,etc. breeding ground.... Also I went to the lfs and was looking at some of the corals.... A lot were really big and was wondering if there is a good site to buy a lot of frags that don't cost a lot as well as cheap shipping.... Also one lfs had ginat clams(cant tell the speices) but it had a I think BTA on it's side and looked like it was touching the clam... Would that harm it? Also if polyps and stuff grow on it won't the sweeper tentacles harm it as well? Lastly how a 10 gal tank how much of DT's live phytoplankton should I feed in a day or should it be weekly feedings? Thx!!!
Honestly you don't need to worry about DT's until you've had your tank up for awhile. Once it's past the cycle by a month or so I'd say mabye a quarter-half a capful per week, unless you get enough lighting that you're keeping a clam. Then you may need to feed a bit more. I wouldn't recommend getting a clam for at least 6-9 months. These are very finicky critters, and most new tanks aren't stable enough to support them. I would think that having a BTA touching the mantle of the clam would irritate it. As for polpys it depends on the polyps. Some zoos might, green star or yellow polyps almost certainly wouldn't.

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fishcrazee

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Whats a good marine salt? I know instant ocean makes a reef crystals and was wondering if it's better to get that or just get the regular salt? Thx for all the help!
 

fishcrazee

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Thx I gotta look into oceanic. What are some trace elements ands stuff that you need to add to nanotanks? Right now I'm thinking of getting strontium, magnesium ,iodine, calcium, reef dip, and essential elements. I'm gonna get an aquaclear 20 for a powerhead, if it's any good, any suggestions on good powerheads if aquaclear 20 isn't good enough for a 10 gal? What is eggcrate??? I see it a lot here and it's a suggestion for a cover to keep firefish from jumping would it let light through, will it stay down, is it reef safe? Also what do moonlights do? Are they required or are they an accessory to see into the night life? Also what are good tools for coral fragging and brands of underwater expoxy that I can get from like home depot or something? Lastly what are good foods for marine fish and good invert foodsbesides DT's)? Is kent marine's Phytoplex phytoplankton and ChromaPlex Phytoplankton any good or is only the live stuff good? Thx
P.S. sorry for all the questions.... I kept thinking of them and thinking.... I don't want my future nano to be ruined....
 

incysor

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fishcrazee said:
Thx I gotta look into oceanic. What are some trace elements ands stuff that you need to add to nanotanks? Right now I'm thinking of getting strontium, magnesium ,iodine, calcium, reef dip, and essential elements. I'm gonna get an aquaclear 20 for a powerhead, if it's any good, any suggestions on good powerheads if aquaclear 20 isn't good enough for a 10 gal? What is eggcrate??? I see it a lot here and it's a suggestion for a cover to keep firefish from jumping would it let light through, will it stay down, is it reef safe? Also what do moonlights do? Are they required or are they an accessory to see into the night life? Also what are good tools for coral fragging and brands of underwater expoxy that I can get from like home depot or something? Lastly what are good foods for marine fish and good invert foodsbesides DT's)? Is kent marine's Phytoplex phytoplankton and ChromaPlex Phytoplankton any good or is only the live stuff good? Thx
P.S. sorry for all the questions.... I kept thinking of them and thinking.... I don't want my future nano to be ruined....
No offense, but you might want to start using the search function, both here and on nano-reef.com and RC. Most, if not all of your questions would be answered that way. In fact every question you have could be answered by looking around a bit. I love helping people out, but folks need to search for answers before asking a string of questions that's been answered a dozen times before. Ok, I'll get off the soapbox and type up an answer.

fishcrazee said:
Thx I gotta look into oceanic.
If you go with oceanic, or instant ocean salt, don't switch to another one. There are some huge threads on RC that basically started with people having their tanks completely crash after changing to the new oceanic salt.
Meanwhile some people have had similar reactions when changing to crystal seas bioassay salt. Many of these folks were changing from instant ocean salt. There's some conjecture now that there's nothing inherently wrong with any of these salts, but for some reason switching between them seems to have a negative impact on the system. I started my original setup with crystal seas. I never had an issue with it. However the LFS I bought it from had a problem with a couple batches of it, so they stopped carrying it. I ran out and couldn't get the crystal seas locally so I switched over to Kent salt. I immediately had issues with algae that I fought off and on until I ordered some more crystal seas. I now just plan on sticking with this salt and ordering online whenever I get close to running out. I've heard good and bad comments about pretty much every salt brand out there. Right now I'm of the opinion that crystal seas is the closest to natural seawater. There is a saltwater study that's being discussed on MARSH now. I'm going to contribute to it, and I can't wait to see the results in a year or so.

fishcrazee said:
What are some trace elements ands stuff that you need to add to nanotanks? Right now I'm thinking of getting strontium, magnesium ,iodine, calcium, reef dip, and essential elements.
Calcium and buffer are going to be your two biggest additives. Strontium, magnesium ,iodine are all good to add in smaller ammounts, but they're trace elements and shouldn't be needed nearly as often. Reef dip is NOT an additive. It's a preventative disinfectant dip to use on corals, (mostly SPS), to help keep new corals from bringing anything into your display. I haven't read about anyone using this on their main system. It's basicaly something you use in a quarantene tank on your corals before adding them to your main system. I wouldn't bother with the essential elements, because between your salt and your other additives you're already putting these same trace elements into your system. Here are the ingredients for essential elements: "Inorganic mineral salts of aluminum, boron, bromine, calcium, chromium, cobalt, copper, iodine, iron, lithium, magnesium, manganese, molybdenum, nickel, potassium, selenium, sulfur, strontium, tin, vanadium, and zinc in a base containing deionized water and EDTA". Most of the mineral salts are covered an any major brand salt mix.

fishcrazee said:
I'm gonna get an aquaclear 20 for a powerhead, if it's any good, any suggestions on good powerheads if aquaclear 20 isn't good enough for a 10 gal?
I don't have any experience with AC powerheads so I'll skip it.

Eggcrate is the white, (usually), plastic grid material that's used with fluorescent lighting in many acoustical tile ceilings. It's available at any Home Depot, or Lowes, and many neigborhood hardware stores. It'll be in the lighting department, near the frosted plastic panes that cover fluorescent light bulbs in most installations. Eggcrate is a good way to help keep jumpers in the tank, but firefish and many jawfish are small enough to still make it through the holes. By using it you're reducing the chances that they'd make it out, because they'd need to make a nearly straight vertical jump to go through one of the holes, but the possibility that they could still make it out exists. You can lay a sheet of plastic window screening over the top of the eggcrate for added protection. It's plastic, and reefsafe.

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Also what do moonlights do? Are they required or are they an accessory to see into the night life?
There's no proof that moonlights DO anything but allow us to look at our critters at night. Many corals and possibly some fish seem to spawn in response to the cycles of the moon. There is some conjecture that the blue moonlights help to trigger this response, but nothing has been proven. They're not necessary at all. Nice, but not required.

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Also what are good tools for coral fragging and brands of underwater expoxy that I can get from like home depot or something?
Pliers, a dremel, a chisel, needle and thread, tule, (it's a net-like material used in wedding gowns), piercing hypodermic needles, superglue gel. Fragging techniques differ from coral to coral. These are all things that I've seen used for different applications. I don't know of anyone using epoxy from HD. If you want to use the underwater putty epoxy you should buy it from your LFS, unless you can compare the ingredients to a more industrial product and determine they're the same thing.

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Lastly what are good foods for marine fish and good invert foodsbesides DT's)? Is kent marine's Phytoplex phytoplankton and ChromaPlex Phytoplankton any good or is only the live stuff good?
Cyclopeze, bornemans mix, name brand flake. This depends largely on what fish you're talking about. Some are herbivores and need vegtable-based flake, some won't touch the stuff. Research on your animals is what's going to determine what types of food you need. DT's phytoplankton, and Liquid Life Bioplankton, are the two most respected products. I've used all the standard Kent products. I think that the two above products are much better. I'm trying out Kent's Phytomax, and Chromamax now, but at this point I still think that DTs or Bioplankton are better.

Hope this helps,

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fishcrazee

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Thx for all the help :D I'll try and use the search feature more :( :oops: ...... I didn't even see it until you said something about it.... ( I'm really stupid sometimes....) Yea I have no questions for now and if I do I'll rememeber search then ask if no answers are found! Thx for pointing it out :D :D :D
 

fishcrazee

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OMG!!!!! IT'S ZIM!!!!!!! does anyone know why they ever canceled that show??? I loved it and its funny ancticts!! REmemeber the 1 with the bee?? And the funny bee song?!?!?!? and gir?? remeber gir and his dog costume and the gnomes!! the funny attacking gnomes!!! and the yelling and the screaming and the INVADER ZIM!!!!!!!!!!! :D sorry for the offtopic rant... I just really liked invader zim....... now back to nano info.... :D :D :D
 

incysor

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Narkon'n'more said:
Incysor, your last post was way to long. hahahah, listen to me telling someone of this. hahaha

Sorry, just an observance. :lol:
Narkon,
:booty:

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fishcrazee, Don't sweat it. I do a lot of reading and searching for stuff over on RC, and I think it's probably the best source of fast info in this hobby. However the people on it can be very brutal about flaming people that ask questions that have been asked many times before. I realized when I read your message that I often suggest people look for info on RC, or on nano-reef, and wouldn't want you to go over there looking for info on my advice and get flamed for asking for info.
 

Narkon'n'more

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incysor said:
Oh, can I frame it. hahahaa :wink:

Both Nano and RC do some brutal flames, so do the search and if you can't find it, then state that in the post when asking the question, then someone will usually give you a link to it, and I always say a thank you for the link.

incysor, for the longest time, my average word count my post were around 500+ so that is why I was stating that.
 

fishcrazee

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has anyone ordered from frag packs? I was looking at the site and saw that they have very nice zoos. I would like to order from them when, if, I get my nanotank. I was thinking about the 6 pack of frags and would like to know about it.... I tried to go to that page like 28 times and nothing ever showed up. Would anyone like to tell me price, shipping, stats, etc. Thx!!! :D :D :D
 

Sugar Magnolia

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It's best to check on some of the forums where the vendor comments are posted to see if anyone has had a bad experience with a particular vendor. I've not purchased from fragpacks myself, so I can't comment on how they do buisness.
 

incysor

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Try running a search on them in the Vendors Experiences forum on RC, and on the Vendor & Trader Feedback forum on N-R. Since those boards are larger there's a better chance that someone has posted comments about them there. It's good to check here, but since it's a smaller board it doesn't lool like anyone's used this vendor before.

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