HAVE YOU SEEN MY CLOWN

[EDGRAY]

Hey guys just with some late new about my tank... yesterday i notice that one of my clowns were missing so i thought it was hidding so today i look again and nothing.... so im like were is he .. probably is dead .. ohh well what do you think tomorrow is my cleaning day should i move my live rock to see if i found the body so doesnt get rotten and make some amonia and nitrate spike or just leave it there and let the hermits and snails to do their thing????? and also today i said good bye to my flower pot i send it to a better home (my lfs Tong's) it was getting to big and wasnt doing that great like all of you guys told me so i got readoff it .

so please help what should i do ... :cryinga: :anxious :anxious :cryinga: im gonna miss the little fellow... :cryinga: :cryinga: i love him so much...

 

[reefman23]

I would say that finding any traces of a body is doubtful. Cleaners usually unite on a find such as a deead body. Everyone pitches in, snails, crabs, shrimps. But i also wouldnt give up hope on finding him. fish can tend to hide very well. Has there been any major fluctuation in your nitrates/nitrites? if so, that would probably mean that he passed. :sad:

 

[EDGRAY]

no natrite or amonia spikes everything is normal and the weird thing is that the clown that is missing is the one that was picking on the other one and how can i tell cause the difference is that one has some black spots and the other one didnt...

 

[sadielynn]

Fingers crossed that he is hiding . He wasent in the flower pot that you took out ? Check the floors and filters for him , like reefman23 said if he died finding him will be tough. Sorry to hear that you got rid of your flower pot too, :sad:

 

[skipm]

The first place I look for a missing resident in my Nanocubes is in the sump area. I have rescued my red banded goby a couple of times and a sexy shrimp from the dreaded sump area. The gobie was missing for a week before I thought about looking back there but he was just fine after I netted him and moved him back to the tank. Since you said the other fgish was picking on him then I think there is a good chance he went over the wall. Good luck, Skip

 

[aromano]

I agree 100% with skipm. Clownfish don't usually hide, and it would show signs of illness if it was dying. If it’s getting chased by the other clown, it certainly got stressed to the point that it jumped into the back chambers. I would definitely take a close look in the sump. My clownfish has also done this once when I was cleaning the tank, and I had to disconnect the pump and rescue him with a tiny net that fits in the chamber.

 

[EDGRAY]

Hi, guys and thx for the replys and well i check every were and is not in my chambers cause in the first one is a sponge right in the top so if something gets there is really noticeable and other chambers have macro alot of it a little bit somethimes without water so i move the surface skimmer to fill the chambers again so nothing in the chambers...?? other thing do the hermits change skin or something i have 5 blue legs and 2 scarlets.... for a few days i took out 3 bodys of blue legs so that leaves me with 2 but looking the aquarium for long time i still have 4 blue legs and the 2 scarlets still there so whats up with that i found body's and counting im just missing 1 blue legs and i took 3 body's out and the 2 scarlets still there .... and the clown that is missing didnt have signs of sickness.. sorry for all this questions and also do hermits attack the fish cause im runing out of brown and green algie.. i add some food tangs you know a green paper that looks like leaves i think is a kind of dried plant that i dont remember the name i added just in case if the hermits are hungry so they dont kill the other clown :cry: :cry: and the sad thing is that they say if i add another clown the old one might be territorial and kill the new fellow is that true...... and sadielynn a know is sad to get rid off my flower pot but i think is in a better place .. all for the good of the flower pot... i tested the water this morning NITRATE 20 NITRITE 0 PH 7.8 LOW ... ALKALINITY OK..

 

[sadielynn]

I dont think that the hermits killed the clown unless they are very big , they eat left over food and other ditreis . Yes hermits will molt . You may want to try to remove the sponge if he got pinned down between that. Also check the floor around the tank he may have jumped out . You may be ok to add another clown after the levels have stableized check the ammonia ..... to add the other clown you could move some of the live rock around to break up the remaining clowns terratory ,. As you check around you may find evidence that the clown did infact die . You also want to try to bump up your ph .

 

[incysor]

Sounds like it's a gonner. Clowns don't really hide much. I wouldn't tear up the rockwork looking for it. You'll just stir stuff up more. You may have crabs that are molting. If these aren't molts, and really are dead crabs, then some of your parameters might be off.

I lost my midas blenny the other day. It was eating good, and had finally seemed to get over the move and was swimming around in the water column. Unfortunately it was a stupid mistake on my part. I had the HOT magnum filter sitting on the side of the tank, but I had stopped running it the day before because it was producing a lot of bubbles. If I'd have taken it off the blenny would still be alive. Apparently the return line was too good a hole for him to pass up with no water coming out of it, and he ended up inside the filter. Since the water was just sitting stagnant, he didn't make it. :sad:

It never even occurred to me to think about it until I started looking for him and couldn't find him anywhere. After about half an hour looking all over the floor and at the rockwork from every angle I could get too, it finally dawned on me what might have happened. Sure enough when I pulled it apart and looked inside I found him.

B

 

[EDGRAY]

So sad im sorry incysor... how can i bust my ph... ill check the amonia after work and is weird cause the snails are ok and the coral looks happy too after my water change and arranging my LR ill post more info... and ill check under the sponge sadielynn and in the floor nothing... ohh my god there is a killer in my tank...ohh nooo help :lol: :lol: :lol: hopefully i wouldnt lose anything else and right now im just gonna clean and water change and im not gonna add anything for now until i get my skimmer from nanotuners.com... will the macro die having a protein skimmer?

 

[dragon79]

Edgray:

From experience I can tell you that at first my two clowns bonded, then kinda fought as one became the dominent female, then each week (happened 3 times in total) I'd have to rescue the male from the chambers in the back. I once had the clown in chamber 2, and twice in chamber 1.

It was weird, because after that last time I removed it and put him back in the tank, they bonded again, and then never fought ever again. Like a relationship fight or something, lol.

Well what I did for the future was I cut up some sponge and glued it to the walls, so as to make the back wall taller, so when the lid comes down, it's impossible for the fish to land back there. If it tried, it would hit the sponge and bounce back in, hehe.

I did this when my blue and yellow goby would fall back into chamber 2. And that happened to me various times. Now that I have sponge there, I've never had to rescue anymore fish.

Do so check those chambers very well and look to see if your clown is there. It may very well be there. Alas though, if it's not back there, then as incysor said, "it's a goner"

 

[little urchin]

hi ed...my hermits (and cleaner shrimp) moult all the time...i keep thinking i have a corpse...then spotting some little legs still poking out of the shell!!

the hermits don't usually go for fish...especially the small red and blue legged ones, and mine certainly like eating the dried seaweed sheets you mention...i tuck them under a shell for a while, then take them out before nightime so they don't add to the pollution

 

[skipm]

I really like your solution Dragon, I didn't think about raising the wall. I just laid a plastic ruler acrossed the top of the wall so it has an overhang, I haven't had any fish in the sump since.

 

[EDGRAY]

yeah thx for the great idea dragon79 ill try to doit but sound kind of hard cause the wall is really thin.... anyways i move all my rock and no signs of anything and empty all the chamber and nothing hopefully i didnt provoke any spike... ohh well then i found some rests of bones like the jaw and half of the bone face so i guess day eat it in 3 days and didnt left anything just bones...ohh my god hermitts do a great job on eating dead fish lol.... i dont have cleaners i have live pirahnas... :lol: