Fish swimming on bottom

rescuediver19

New Member
My scooter blenny and percula clownfish are both swimming on the bottom hyperventilating. The scooter blenny is hyperventilating and not moving around much. My clownfish comes up to eat and see what is going on when I approach the tank, but is still less active. Anyone know what this might be? I think my clownfish has Ick too. Help me save my fishies!
 

mikeguerrero

Active Member
We need info....

How big is your tank? How long have you set it up? When did you add the fish? Did you acclimate your fish? Did you add water from bag to your tank?

Have your fish been eating before? When did they stop feeding? When did you see them breathing heavy?

What are your water parameters? Salinity, Temp, Ammonia, Nitrite? Have any kids placed anything into the water while you were away?

How often do you feed them? What do you feed them? How often have you changed the water, what percentage?

Have you added any medications, if so which? And how much have you placed?

Do you see them scratching against the gravel or rocks? Do you see any white rice looking spots on them?

Are there dorsal fins down? If so for how long? Do they feed and then spit out the food?

Quickly answer these questions, hurry if you want to save them!!!!

MG
 

rescuediver19

New Member
Tank: 12G Aquapod
Breathing/Behavioral difference: Scooter Blenny 2-3 days Clownfish 1 day
Water Parameters: All with in normal limits
Fed: Once a day frosen mysis (type in blister packs) with brine shrimp supplemented 1-2 times a week
White Spots: Clown fish has some on dorsal fin
Dorsal Fins: Pinned down
Blenny isnt eating
Clownfish is eating
Haven't used any meds
1 week water change 10% water
Not scratching on rocks
 

mikeguerrero

Active Member
It appears your fish have ich. It's a parasite that attaches to fish during one of the many reproduction stages it goes through. If you don't treat your fish quickly they are going to die.

You can tackle this problem several ways and I will be brief:

You can med your reef with reef safe ich meds or non reef meds. If you have inverts or corals you will need reef safe meds.

I recommend no-ich med by Vet Med; make sure it's the reef safe as there are many versions out there.

You can treat in the tank directly with this stuff and it will not affect your corals or inverts.

If you have a hospital tank set up you can treat the fish with meds that are a little stronger and more effective; they usually have a copper base to them, that the parasites cannot tolerate.

If you opt to stick with treating in your tank, that's okay, purchase the med and dose it according to instructions do not deviate.

You can raise the temp slightly to 83 or 84 degrees while you introduce this med to the tank, as it will speed up the metabolism of the reproducing parasite, this means more parasites will come in contact to your med.

This is important as the parasite is only susceptible to this med during a floating stage of the parasite.

After using the med, you should see within two days a change in the fish. If they come around and begin accepting food, you need to fatten them up with pellets that have been dipped in garlic elixir.

This promotes the appetite of the ailing fish it will also give them vitamins that they can use to build up the immune system.

You can also not run the lights during the first couple of days of treatment as the lights allow the parasite to find the fish more easy during the attacks.

Now, if you are going to treat them outside of your tank, there is hyposalinity that will help out, this is another method that most reefers do and is very effective but takes time and patience and more importantly a hospital tank.

I won't go there unless you are going that route.

Let me know what you decide to do?

MG
 

reefman23

New Member
Just FYI... I have read that the scooter blennies arent a good choice for small tanks as they usually dont eat and cant scavenge enough food in the small environment that thus starve to death.

Jesse
 

rescuediver19

New Member
Scooter died :cry: but i am going to do a freshwater dip with my clownfishand treat the water using kick ich hope it works...
 

mikeguerrero

Active Member
You are going to need to treat your main display tank or all this will be worthless. As you return your cured fish he will be attacked again.

What are your plans?
 

mikeguerrero

Active Member
What do you mean?

Are you saying that your clown is scratching against the rocks? If you answer yes, then he is infected and needs to be treated immediately, as each day is crucial to his survival.

Good luck.
 

mikeguerrero

Active Member
You should not place anything in that infested tank for 30 days. You will only sentance it to death and that is cruel.

Treat the tank with reef safe medicine and wait out the alloted time and your reef wll be ready for fish and free of cryptocayron.

Best of luck...
 

drty811

New Member
sorry to hear about your loses :cry: damn ich :twisted: :evil: never ending battle. the one thing that i do is suppliment garlic once a week, to help fit it off. so far so good
 

drty811

New Member
you can get it at your LFS or you can use real garlic. i have also heard of someone useing the gel filled pills.
 
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