Well the jbj has it, it's not pretty, it has to go. I have already purchased the chemi-clean and picked it up for my girl for only 4.99 with exchange of a dead anemone shrimp that didn't make it when i picked him up yesterday. (sucks too cuz I really liked the way it looked) I would have picked up another but they had no more... anyway, I pick up the chemi-clean and I add a scoopful into the tank and I guess in 24 hours i am to do a 20% water change, and everything should be cool. I'll check up tomorrow after work.....hopefully that stupid cyano bubble algae goes away. The flow in tank is pretty decent, my girl has an upgraded pump, which helps tremendously, but well I guess from here it's a matter of waiting.....thanks in advance to incysor if all of this helps get rid of bubble algae.
cyano bubble algae
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mikeguerrero
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Bubble algae??
Which thread did I miss, can you link it here? So I can read it?
Mike
Which thread did I miss, can you link it here? So I can read it?
Mike
Here's the thread Mike.
http://nanotank.com/viewtopic.php?t=722
FWIW I've never actually done a big water change directly after using chemi-clean. No adverse reactions from anything as far as I could tell.
I don't think doing a water change is a bad idea, but I'd give it a day or so to make sure the chemi-clean has had plenty of time to work.
Sorry you're having to deal with this stuff...Shannen's nano had major issues with that and hair algae for awhile. It's just starting to come around now.
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http://nanotank.com/viewtopic.php?t=722
FWIW I've never actually done a big water change directly after using chemi-clean. No adverse reactions from anything as far as I could tell.
I don't think doing a water change is a bad idea, but I'd give it a day or so to make sure the chemi-clean has had plenty of time to work.
Sorry you're having to deal with this stuff...Shannen's nano had major issues with that and hair algae for awhile. It's just starting to come around now.
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mikeguerrero
Active Member
Thanks for the thread Incysor,
I've never had bubble algae but from Dragons pic, it looks nasty. Looks like it wants to overrun the rock. Good luck in erradicating it....
Mike
I've never had bubble algae but from Dragons pic, it looks nasty. Looks like it wants to overrun the rock. Good luck in erradicating it....
Mike
Sugar Magnolia
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Okay, I think there's some confusion as to what's in that tank. I can tell you most definitively that it is NOT cyano bubble algae, because there is no such thing. Somehow you've grouped two entirely different things together, so I'll help clear it up.
Cyano is not an algae at all. It's a bacteria, hence the name cyanobacteria. Bubble algae as it is most commonly called is valonia sp, a type of nuisance algae that can over run a tank if not removed.
Cyanobacteria is most often found in the typical red/maroon color, but can also be brown. It forms a dense mat and you will often see bubbles trapped in the mat. These are nitrogen bubbles that are normally released from the sand bed and LR, but in the presence of cyano, they get trapped in the mat. Here's a picture of your typical cyano outbreak http://www.reefs.org/hhfaq/pages/pictur ... cyano.html And, here's an article about cyano from Reefs.org http://www.reefs.org/library/article/c_bingman2.html
Valonia sp., bubble algae forms small round glossy green balls, sometimes with a silver tint to them. They usually grow in clusters, but sometimes you may find a solitary bubble algae. Manual removal is recommended to get rid of this nuisance. Removing the rock from the tank and gently prying the bubbles loose from the rock, then giving the rock a quick rinse in a bucket of tankwater is the best way to handle them. If you pop them in the main tank you release the spores, which will spread the valonia. Emerald crabs are a hit or miss deal. They may eat it then again, they may not. A pic of bubble algae - http://www.reefs.org/hhfaq/pages/pictur ... lonia.html
So, cyano is what I see in that picture. Chemi-clean does work, I've used it succesfully a few times in my smaller nanos, but I just tried to use it in the 30 and the cyano came back. Basically what the chemi-clean is, is an antibiotic and like most bacteria, it can become reisitant to chemical treatments. Hopefully yours won't.
My only suggestion would be to manually remove as much of the cyano as you can with a turkey baster before treating and during treatment.
HTH's. :wink:
Cyano is not an algae at all. It's a bacteria, hence the name cyanobacteria. Bubble algae as it is most commonly called is valonia sp, a type of nuisance algae that can over run a tank if not removed.
Cyanobacteria is most often found in the typical red/maroon color, but can also be brown. It forms a dense mat and you will often see bubbles trapped in the mat. These are nitrogen bubbles that are normally released from the sand bed and LR, but in the presence of cyano, they get trapped in the mat. Here's a picture of your typical cyano outbreak http://www.reefs.org/hhfaq/pages/pictur ... cyano.html And, here's an article about cyano from Reefs.org http://www.reefs.org/library/article/c_bingman2.html
Valonia sp., bubble algae forms small round glossy green balls, sometimes with a silver tint to them. They usually grow in clusters, but sometimes you may find a solitary bubble algae. Manual removal is recommended to get rid of this nuisance. Removing the rock from the tank and gently prying the bubbles loose from the rock, then giving the rock a quick rinse in a bucket of tankwater is the best way to handle them. If you pop them in the main tank you release the spores, which will spread the valonia. Emerald crabs are a hit or miss deal. They may eat it then again, they may not. A pic of bubble algae - http://www.reefs.org/hhfaq/pages/pictur ... lonia.html
So, cyano is what I see in that picture. Chemi-clean does work, I've used it succesfully a few times in my smaller nanos, but I just tried to use it in the 30 and the cyano came back. Basically what the chemi-clean is, is an antibiotic and like most bacteria, it can become reisitant to chemical treatments. Hopefully yours won't.
My only suggestion would be to manually remove as much of the cyano as you can with a turkey baster before treating and during treatment.HTH's. :wink:
Sugar Magnolia
New Member
Ooooh, forgot this, looks like a bit of hair algae in that pic too. Take that rock out of the tank and scrub it with a soft toothbrush in some tank water. Rinse well is some fresh tank water and that should get rid of it for you.
Great posts SM. This is exactly what I've been trying to get across.
The first time I dosed the tanks with chemi-clean I didn't use enough and it reduced the cyano a bit but didn't kill it. The second time I dosed just a tad more than the recommended amount and it did the trick.
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The first time I dosed the tanks with chemi-clean I didn't use enough and it reduced the cyano a bit but didn't kill it. The second time I dosed just a tad more than the recommended amount and it did the trick.
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http://netclub.athiel.com/cyano/cyanos2.htm
I have had this problem for a long time. I found this link to be very helpful
I have had this problem for a long time. I found this link to be very helpful
things looking better
Thanks Adrian for the article, i read it, and saw the leading causes of it. Overfeeding, dead organisms, living, basically anything organic left in there that isn't swept up by the filtration system ups the chance. It really stresses on getting a protein skimmer, and one that is double of what your tank is. So mine being a 12 gallon, it recommends getting a skimmer that treats a 20 gallon or so. Being I haven't read or seen that done in a JBJ nanocube, I think a higher percentage of water changes each week and running the HOT Magnum filter should help tremendously. I'll monitor Sandras tank and make sure it's all good. Thanks again.
Thanks Adrian for the article, i read it, and saw the leading causes of it. Overfeeding, dead organisms, living, basically anything organic left in there that isn't swept up by the filtration system ups the chance. It really stresses on getting a protein skimmer, and one that is double of what your tank is. So mine being a 12 gallon, it recommends getting a skimmer that treats a 20 gallon or so. Being I haven't read or seen that done in a JBJ nanocube, I think a higher percentage of water changes each week and running the HOT Magnum filter should help tremendously. I'll monitor Sandras tank and make sure it's all good. Thanks again.