BLACK SPOTS!!! IT LOOKS LIKE MY CLOWNS HAVE MOLD .... S.O.S

EDGRAY

EDGRAY

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Well like you told me the flower pot wasnt gonna do well in the nano tank or like they say forbidden coral but here is the thing i think i kill it why? well it was doing really well but one day i was sick of my rock and everything so i decided to move everything so i did it for 2 hours of non stoping moving the rock and the coral then 30min i didnt like it so i did it again well all the water was cloudy cause of the live sand and dust of broken live rock and i still dont like how it looks but i said im gonna kill all i got in my tank so im gonna let everything rest at leas 2 weeks hopefully lol lol... well here is the thing the flower pot is not opening just a little bit and is throwing saggy smoke or whatever so i think is dying cause of the saggy stuff and well is not opening should i get rid of it or just wait cause i dont want to have a dead coral on the water i dont need a amonia or nitrate spike...... but sure im gonna miss my flower pot :cryinga:

ok thats the flower pot and also 3 days ago before moving rock and killing flower pot my clowns look like their black lines were fading so sadielynn told me to feed them cyclop eeze or something for better nutrition and then i notice that they have black dots ick looking but black and now one of them look like he has mold on his belly and in h sides and the other one only in the top so in my fish store told me that was i kind of fungus is that right????? so i created a 2.5 g hospital with my live rock and sand of my nano tank and water too and some fresh saltwater everything look perfect even the fish look like they are doing fine so today is the second day of treating them with pimafix but i dont see that the spots are fading but they look fine so what should i do keep the treatment for 7 days like bottle says or do something else....

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djconn

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As far as your tank and flowerpot question goes, how is it looking today? Any better? You actually might have caused another small spike in your tank by just moving everything around and stirring up the sand, etc. Your flowerpot might be stressing from that. You might try posting a picture to see what other folks have to say. Sounds like its stressed.

As far as the clowns go, I'd take them back to your LFS and have them take a look at them. They see ich and fungus all day on fish. They can direct you on the proper treatment. Are they breathing and eating okay?
 
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dragon79

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This is all how you are going to learn from it all. Trial and error. You are learning from what you are doing. It appears with you stirring things up, you did create a small spike. Just have to wait and monitor and see if it comes around. As for your clowns, it's very important you can get a pic so we can identify the type of infection your clowns may have. If you can't do that, go with Dj's advice and show a reputable LFS that can give their professional advice on the right product to buy. It would be a waste of time if you are treating your fish for something it doesn't have. Good luck...
 
EDGRAY

EDGRAY

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just like i said i went to my fish store and they told me that might be a fungus thing and they told me to treat them with pimafix ... but they didnt look sure about that thats why im asking and i tried to take a pic but the clown looks fine on picture and also explained that he has like black spots like mold looking or black ick but like mold and after 3 days of pimafix i dont see any improvements ......

and the flower pot looks better today is opening a little bit more....
 
EDGRAY

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THX for the links sadielynn im reading them and ill continue at work lol.... but anyways so far i read only what i seem related to black spots and some of this guys discribes the same thing i do.... fish are moving right or sometimes fast , eating properly they look healthy but with black spots in their body and the belly looks a little bloded but the thing is that they dont give a lot of info. about that they only bla bla bla about ick and ick and ick and sometimes they say that the signs of black spots on their body are..... : The Clown's markings are almost undoubtedly nothing more than "regular"
>"age-spots"....not an infectious, parasitic problem, nor indication of
>environmental difficulties... I would do nothing to "treat" this dark spot
>condition... Bob Fenner......


so is that true that doesnt convince me really or is true ill put them back to the main tank.

i almost forgot sadielynn if you read in the firt paragraph i mentioned that i made a hospitar tank of 2.5 g with my old liverock , sand and water and then fresh saltwater ... i can say that the hospital looks better than the main tank :lol: :lol:

any ways what do you think... please some one can give me more info....

if you all agree that is age spots ill put them back to the main tank.... cause they look that they miss their half dead flower pot and hairy mushroom...

doctor incysor were are you :?: :?: :razz:
 
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sadielynn

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:doh
Geez the coffee just hit I am sorry :doh
as for the hosp tank you may want to leave it bare bones no rock or sand as the ich can live there too again I am sorry I misred
 
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dragon79

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sadielynn said:
:doh
Geez the coffee just hit I am sorry :doh
as for the hosp tank you may want to leave it bare bones no rock or sand as the ich can live there too again I am sorry I misred
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i agree. In QT, there is no LS, and no LR. Best thing you can throw in there for a place for them to feel safe, is adding a piece of PVC pipe in there.

As for pictures, you need to post one regardless so we get an idea of what it looks like. If your fish had ick, best treatment recommended by Dr. Incysor is "garlic"

My attempts to erradicate ick have been using the "hyposalinity" method. Which is gradually dropping the salinity level so it goes as low enough to kill off the parasites. Also it doesn't hurt to treat using kick-ick as well. This has been methods for regular ick, not sure if it works the same for black ick, as I haven't had a fish infected in the way you describe...
 
EDGRAY

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hi thx for the info about taking out the live sand & rock so ill do that today and also just to feel safe i put the bioballs there is that bad too cause im taking out my bioballs , rigns and carbon little by little just like mike said about having better filtration so im puting instead alot of live rock instead off all that and also i put the chemi pure right now is in the second space put im thinking on put it in the first space ... like 2 sponges then chemi pure and then the other sponge on the top so anyways today im gonna take out the rings so here is the thing .... should i leave the hospital without anything or is ok to me to leave there the bioballs and add the rings and thats it and also what is a piece of pvc pipe ????

and about the pic ill try today cause i tried yesterday and you cant see the spots with that pic so ill use my uncle camara today...

I search on internett and here is some info but doesnt say what to do and here are 3 pics .. those spots look like mines....

check the link:

http://reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34513&start=40
 

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they are talking that clownfish living in association with zooanthids is caused by stinging so i dont know what is zooanthids is that zoos family or something well here are some pics of what i have of zoos then only a half dead flower pot and a lavander hairy mushroom..
 

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sadielynn

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I would say that it is not a sting mark from what others here have told me clowns are immune to stings .. I would say yes on removing the bioballs they are a sorce for nitrAtes and nitrItes
 
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I agree with fenner - these are stress spots not neccesarily "ich", "fungal" or "age" however. In another thread I talked about a similar observation I had with my clowns when I had them in the 12. It was my belief at that time and still is that since my clowns had been in a very large tank before and the 12 had so much rock in it that they just always felt crowded and they developed black spots. Within a week of my JBJ cracking and me moving them to a 20gal the spots went away completely without any treatment of any type and they are doing great again. your fish are stressed by their environmkent and if you do not remove the sresser they will become ill witha parasite like ich and die. in your case the stresser may have been a ammonia spike or your messing with the tank????????????
 
EDGRAY

EDGRAY

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well thats true but during my nitrate spikes they werent there and i dont have any amonia spikes...and well so far i have less rock in my tank cause i put them instead of bio balls ,rings and carbon bag.... so today im gonna put them back to the main tank cause after 4 days of searching and everything i think ohhh well i try everything so see what happens cause i think is more stress full to be in a hospital than at home with their coral homies :lol: and also i notice a improvement of my clowns in my hospital the black spots dont seem that bad but they still there but less i dont know why????? maybe because they have 2.5 g for them selfs or cause pimafix is working ???? ohhh well see what happens in a week back to the main tank ....... :roll: i think now im getting more stress than them :compresed so lets nature do their thing .....

but anyways :thanks :thanks :thanks to all......
 
EDGRAY

EDGRAY

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Anyways after i got home i did a water change and i put my clowns back to the main tank they were thank full o my god the were like " we are home" and they started to rubb or host the half dead flower pot and my lavander hairy shroom they look super happy well i just did 3 days on hospital with pimafix but i couldnt stand looking at them at the hospital i know that feeling everyone hates it lol anyways the spots still there but they look fine well like 2 hour later of adding them and water change i did of last resource i add some water with garlic only on piece and i let it with the tank water for 45 min and then i domp it at the main tank cause i look in alot of forums here that garlic dip is good for alot of diseases , fungus or to prevent alot of things like ick well should i keep doing that to see if the black dots get away with that if so.... everyday or some other day until is gone and the once in a week.....and then once in a month just to keep my tank safe of anything.....

by the way flower pot still only 10% open and some times tries to open but then shrinks again ... ....

thx for your time everyone....

eddy :D :) :mrgreen:
 
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sadielynn

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I wouldnt put the live rock back into the display as that could leach stuff back into your tank . I would just leave them go and observe them closely , as johnanddawn said it probably is just an adjustment , or stress spots and to keep moving them as they get adjusted is hard on them . Just keep up with the weekly h20 changes at about 20 -30% at a time. If they came from a larger display then this is likely just stress .....just keep feeding them "healthy" foods and feeding them the garlic as mentioned as that stimulates them to eat. Just my .02 good luck keep us posted :)
 
EDGRAY

EDGRAY

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well you can see in the picture that they look happy being home and they look healthy also .... and when i got them they were in a small tank with 15 more of their kind and well know in my tank they have their own room and bed as you can see in the pic.... the only problem is that the spots still there.... eating like pigs and they look hungry all the time i feed them 2 times in the morning some flakes and cyclop eeze and at 6pm mysis shrimp and cyclop ezze (now with deep of garlic every other day... until spots are gone or in 1 month or what do you think).... thats all.. and i pic of how my tank is know sorry looks dusty but was fishies breakfast time :)
 

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sadielynn

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Given time I think that the spots will decrease if not compleatly go away , if it is infact stress . To sayif it will exactly what it is they have is difficult . They maybe suffering from missing their "friends" , new home . Keep up with the varied diet and the garlic given time , I think that you will see improvment if not then it is probably a genitic? perhaps .
 
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dragon79

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EDGRAY said:
hi thx for the info about taking out the live sand & rock so ill do that today and also just to feel safe i put the bioballs there is that bad too cause im taking out my bioballs , rigns and carbon little by little just like mike said about having better filtration so im puting instead alot of live rock instead off all that and also i put the chemi pure right now is in the second space put im thinking on put it in the first space ... like 2 sponges then chemi pure and then the other sponge on the top so anyways today im gonna take out the rings so here is the thing .... should i leave the hospital without anything or is ok to me to leave there the bioballs and add the rings and thats it and also what is a piece of pvc pipe ????

and about the pic ill try today cause i tried yesterday and you cant see the spots with that pic so ill use my uncle camara today...

I search on internett and here is some info but doesnt say what to do and here are 3 pics .. those spots look like mines....

check the link:

http://reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=34513&start=40
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PVC pipe, is just a piece of what other plumbing pipe connects with to serve a purpose of water to flow through. I use like one piece of like a 3 sided piece, so they can go in and out of it as they please. if you are still stumped, run a search on PVC pipe or check this pic out....

http://www.littlegreenhouse.com/accessory/p-3way.jpg
 
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