Algea

Hello I set up my first SW tank about a month ago. It is the 12 NANO cube. about a week and a half ago my live rock was covered in brown algea. it is slowly turning green. How long can I expect to wait before my rock clears up? Thank you in advance
 

incysor

New Member
You're probably in the middle of your cycle still. What are your water params?

Leaving the lights off competely for the length of the cycle helps to keep algae blooms from happening.
 

djconn

New Member
Hey Memphis,
What kind of clean up crew do you have in your nanocube? Did you use cured rock/uncured? Regular sand or live sand?
 

Phischy

New Member
So when I start to cycle my tank this weekend I should leave the lights off for a month? This won't have a negative impact on the good stuff that needs to photosythesize?

Here's another question. One of the guys at the store I buy at told me when I get my live rock to scoop up a bunch of the muck at the bottom of the live rock bin b/c it's full of bugs and other good stuff. I'd then mix it in with my live sand sterile sand and then add my live rock to begin the whole curing/cycling process. Will this kill them bugs off?
 

incysor

New Member
Phischy said:
So when I start to cycle my tank this weekend I should leave the lights off for a month? This won't have a negative impact on the good stuff that needs to photosythesize?

Here's another question. One of the guys at the store I buy at told me when I get my live rock to scoop up a bunch of the muck at the bottom of the live rock bin b/c it's full of bugs and other good stuff. I'd then mix it in with my live sand sterile sand and then add my live rock to begin the whole curing/cycling process. Will this kill them bugs off?
Yep just leave the lights off for the cycle period....Which depends on how the system is set up, and how cured the liverock is. Some people's tanks seem to cycle very slowly, some pretty quickly. Mine cycled in about 2 weeks the first time. I put in a couple damsels and kept the lights off for another week. Never had any algae bloom. Oddly enough even with all the problems I had during my move, I didn't seem to experience the cycle I was expecting. Within 4-5 days of putting sand and LR back in the tanks my params were back to normal.

Scooping some of the muck off the bottom of the LR container is essentially the same as seeding your tank with a cup of LS from an established tank.

None of the bacteria that are responsible for the breakdown of ammonia/nitites etc... are photosynthetic, so it won't hurt them or help them to have the lights on/off. All you're doing by keeping the lights off is preventing algae blooms, during the period when your bacteria cultures aren't large enough to break down the organics fast enough to prevent the algae from getting enough nutrients.
 

incysor

New Member
Memphis,

Have you added any powerheads to the tank? How long do you leave the lights on? Some types of algae blooms seem to be caused by lack of water movement. I assumed that because it was a new tank it was probably just the normal blooms that people experience during the break-in cycle, but if all your params are down you might just need a bit more flow in the tank. The nanocube standard setup doesn't really generate much flow.

The other thing is that you might try cutting back on your photoperiod until the tank is more established. If you've got your lights on 12hrs a day try cutting it back to 8 or 10. If you're only running your lights 6-8hrs I'd try a small powerhead in the tank.
 

incysor

New Member
I hope it helps. :smile:

If neither of these things helps clear it up, try getting your water tested at another LFS. After fighting a PH issue for several weeks I went to one of my LFS and had them test my water, and they told me my water was fine.
I was relieved, but things still weren't looking right in my tank. About a week later I took another water sample to another LFS that I trusted a bit more, and they tested it and sure enough my calcium, and ph were way off. They explained what I needed to do to get it back to normal, and how long it should take. The first store was one that I normally trust for advice, but as it turns out the person doing the testing was kinda new, and didn't really know what he was doing.

I had a cyano aglae outbreak at one point, it wasn't terrible, but it was in a tank that I couldn't really add too much flow too, so I tried a product called chemi-clean. It's a very small white bottle, about half full of a powder. I followed the directions exactly. You add so many little spoonfuls per gallon. Overnight the cyano was gone. Amazing stuff. It didn't affect my corals, my octopus, (notoriously sensitive to chemicals), my other inverts, or my fish. It's mainly for use against cyano, which may or may not be the brown algae you were seeing. I'd recommend trying to add flow to the tank, and reduce your photoperiod first, but if those don't work in a week or so, I'd give this stuff a try.
 

Ritsuko Nashida

New Member
Cyno-Bateria is from nutrient rich water and poor flow. Chemi clean works great but its a band aid on a cut throat, and as such a temp fix at best. The good part about Chemi clean is it will buy you time to do some water chages with RO/DI water, and lower the nutrient levels in the tank.

When starting a tank you will more than likely experience a number opf algae blooms. These are usually no big deal if your clean up crew is properly sized to your tank and you use RO/DI water for water changes. A skimmer if you can hook one up too will help lower the nutrient levels in you water as well. Cutting back your lighting schedule will slow the algae down a bit too.

As far as adding a scoop of live sand from a rock cruing vat or an established tank, by all means do so as it can only help. In fact I would try to get a scoop from several healthy well established tanks as it will do wonders for increasing the bio-diversity in your tank, which is already way lower than whats in the ocean, so every little bit helps in my opinion.

HTH's a bit
 

dragon79

New Member
Memphis the parrot said:
Hello I set up my first SW tank about a month ago. It is the 12 NANO cube. about a week and a half ago my live rock was covered in brown algea. it is slowly turning green. How long can I expect to wait before my rock clears up? Thank you in advance
I'm at this stage now. I run 8 hours of light a day, and it's all on a timer, so it's never more or less. I cleaned it as much as I could using an algae scraper for the tank itself, as for the LR, there is nothing I can do but watch and see the cleaner crew do their thing. I may get some more hermits as I started with 5, and recenlty I only see 4. Tomorrow my LFS has a shipment of goodies, so I'm going for those hermits I mentioned and a lawnmower blenny or bicolor blenny to help eat up that yucky ugly algae. How's your tank now I wonder? You posted in September and it's December now....
 

mikeguerrero

Active Member
Dragons blenny is awesome, I've seen him in action from a 30 sec AVI he sent across MSN.

And from his recent post in the lounge his tank looks pretty sharp,,,,

Mike
 
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