UV Sterilizer

reefman23

New Member
I dont have experience with UV sterilizers, nor do I have knowledge of that particular unit. I believe that one of the only members on this site that runs a UV unit is Mike Guerrero. He has a turbo-twist I believe on his 72g bow.

Jesse
 

chacha

New Member
I really don't want to run a Sterilizer myself; however, I currently have a Purple Tang which I love, but has ick, or some kind of parasite. I have been feeding the tank w/garlic and understand that it only prolongs his life not cures him. Is there anything else I can do, I quess besides a hospital tank because I know I will never catch him.
 

TimSchmidt

New Member
Search for Mike's ich fight. That is why he bought the UV, but he also used some medicine. Do a search and you should find it.
 

chacha

New Member
We'll have to talk about that because even if it is for a couple of weeks I think I would like to try it.

Also, you forgot to take my magnet, but don't buy one I will have one for you when you come up next.
 

EDGRAY

New Member
chacha said:
Thanks Tim! However, I thought one of the worst things you could is treat a fish in a reef tank?
The treatment i know that is reef safe & invertebrates safe is KICK ICK so ask your LFS if he sell it... and give it a try!..

EDDY
 

chacha

New Member
I would love to hospitalize him and if this Kick Ick (Thanks Ed) is not obtainable localy I will take you up on that tank and filter. I just don't want to lose him.
 

aquemeni5110

New Member
Good luck catching your purple tang. Just be careful, you don't want to stress it out anymore than it is. I'm running a 9w Turbo Twist in my tank. Although it will not treat fishes already infected with ich, it will prevent future ich breakouts. HTH
 

chacha

New Member
I know...that is the one big thing I worry about. How often do you run your sterilizer? Is it constant? I used to have one hooked up to an old tank that was constant, but if I do it this time I was considering only running it at night.
 

aquemeni5110

New Member
It runs 24/7. I only shut it off when I do water changes. I would like to run it at night. It sounds like a good idea. I just need to buy a timer.
 

chacha

New Member
I don't know how accurate this is but I once heard that sterilizers can stip to many inpurities from a reef tank. Again, I don't know if that is acurate but I don't see a lot of reefers running sterilizers. That is why I thought minimal hours would work.

I just hate killing fish and is why I would like to run one again. Ask Eric (drty811) I am lucky if I can keep a fish alive past 6mnths. :sad: :mrgreen:
 

mikeguerrero

Active Member
Before you decide what type of defense against the ich on your purple tang; can you tell me your size tank?

I will guide you at that time. There are many ways to fight the ich but before you set up a defensive side I have to know the story; how long has the fish had it, when it first started and if he is still feeding.

MG
 

aquemeni5110

New Member
If anyone can shed some light on the pros and cons of a UV filter that would be great. Also if running at night time is recommended. Sorry chacha, I hate to hi-jack your post. As you were! :mrgreen:
 

chacha

New Member
Mike, My tang has had ick for about a month now. It all started after I lost two fish. Come to find out one of them jumped to its death. However the other must have died and is exactly when the tang showed up with ick. However the fish that died had no signs of ick. The tang is still a strong eater and I just noticed him picking at the rocks again. Anyways it is a 75g main w/ a 30g refugium. Any advise?

Brian no hi-jack here, I appriciate your posts. :mrgreen:
 

mikeguerrero

Active Member
Chacha,

Thanks for the info. Ich in my opinion is always present in your reefs much like the common cold is found in our homes. We sometimes get it bad and we sometimes get it lightly.

In the reef tank, I have noticed that ich can and will remain dormant until the right conditions emerge; once this happens it will launch an attack on your fish.

This is my guess; your reef was fine up until your purchased the tang and brought him home. They are indeed carriers of ich on their gills and skin during transport. If you didn't quarentine it; most of us don't chances are you placed a strain into your tank.

As it arrived the immune system in the other fish drop by nature; excitement and anxiety which make them more succeptilbe to the infection.

Once the infection hits it only gets worse as ich comes in sets much like the waves in the ocean, they don't stop. In an enclosed ecosystem this spells certain death to all your fish as they are host to the parasite.

In the reef tank there is no where to go as in the ocean they can swim away to other areas less infected.

As the ich multiplies by the hundreds and thousands your fish cannot cope with the slaughter to come.

Why the tang is not infected is much open to debate, my analysis is it carries some immunity but it too will die if the tank is not medicated or action taken.

Okay, are you still with me? What to do? Here are two steps you can take.

1. You can medicate your reef with products like kick ich or No- ich. I've used the No- ich before with both positive and negative effects. If you have never added it before chances are it will work well the first time; second time I feel the parasites developed an immunity to it.

If you do add it in, please follow the instructions down to the wire, otherwise you are wasting your time, this product is expensive and one way to immediately start destroying the parasite at one of it's stages.

It works with a special indredient much like the medicine women take for a yeast infection; I've read that much on it. It does work.

I would also feed your fish pellets dipped in garlic extract, this opens there appetite to eat and is much like mom's chicken soup, building up white blood cells; do the same to your fish.

Okay, now you can raise the temp in your tank, this only speeds up the metabolism in the parasite to reach a stage that the med can attack.

Okay part two:

2. Purchase the Coralife Turbo Twist 36 watt and then get the Mag 3 pump and raise the unit to three feet of head pressure, you need to make sure the tank water that enters the unit passes slow enough that the parasite is destroyed at the DNA level, it cannot breed and then dies.

Once you do this you are attacking the parasite at the free floating stage. In one month of time you will see your fish recover 100 percent, I will not exaggerate, you will be impressed.

If you take all these precautions that I gave you, you will have a crystal clear reef free of the killers; well not totally free of all ich, but enough that the population is controlled and your fish can fight off any other smaller attacks; do the numbers, a healthly young adult can fight off smaller infections but place a healthy adult in a locked room full of reproducing infections on the thousands; you will kill the healthy adult.

I hope this helps you out...

MG
 

chacha

New Member
Wow :shock: That has to be the best information I have received in the past 6 years of reefing :!: Thank you very much, my tang thanks you also. I will keep you posted as I progress.
 
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