sos nano crash

sadielynn

New Member
7 gallon bow front crashed all fish are out including the hermits the one damsel was bulling a clown fish very badly and had to come out the water is cloudy and the live rock has a very bad smell (made me puke) any way all fish are alive and in holding for now we need to get the tank up and running again do I do a 100 % h2o change and seed with some old water and sand placing live rock back in I guess it would be more like an 80 - 95 % h2o change any help would be great sadie
all perameters before crash were 0 and with running 2 filters the water wont clear
 

Vafik

New Member
Few questions, how long had the tank been up and running before the crash and did you add anything new to the tank. Any Live rock, sand or fish? If the rock smelled then there is some die off going on and the rock will have to cure again. If the smell is that bad you might be looking at a few weeks of curring before it's safe to add fish. This question will probably be answered better by one of the more experienced Reef keepers here.
 

sadielynn

New Member
the tank had been up for aprox 4 months
nothing new added we had to take a fish
out that was getting very very very very
agressive and when we got him out the
tank was dismanteled the rock had a
very pungent smell to to it all perameters
were good we got a lot of cloudiness that
did not clear with duel filtration we have 3
fish that needed to go back in to the tank
we had no where to put them we got live
ag sand ( packaged in water ) and bought
ro water remixed the salt and checked it we
did a drip acclimation back in to the tank we
tried to make sure that the levels were close as
possible we used aprox 1 gallon of original h20
 

djconn

New Member
So you basically rearranged some rockwork, in an effort to get a fish out, and then your tank got cloudy?

How long did you let things settle after moving all the rock? Was you LR ever out of water and if so, how long? What about your corals?

Just trying to get a clear picture of everything that happened...
 

sadielynn

New Member
we let it settle for around 3 hours but it didnt clear
even with 2 filters usually it clears with the 2 filters
with in 3 -5 hours with noticible diffrence as the
hours pass live rock was out for 1/2 hour at atime
our lfs guy said the smell was normal ( I have a
very sensitive nose that things normal people are
not affected by) this time the cloudiness was
diffrent I cant really explain it but it would not
settle at all so what we did was about a 95% h2o change and
tried to get the levels back to what they were now comes the monitoring
of all the other levels to check for nitrate nitrite etc.....the tank is back up and running all seem to be doing ok thus far corals
not out of h20 for more than a transfer to holding
 

incysor

New Member
Well the descriptions are pretty confusing and jumbled.

But it looks like you rearranged the live rock, and added to/disturbed the sand bed. This will cause a ton of silt/detritus to hang in the water column. You're also killing off a portion of your anaerobic bacteria, by exposing the deeper portions of the sandbed, and by leaving the liverock in out of water you're causing a die off of both anaerobic, and aerobic bacteria on it. The smell is normal.

Doing the sediment problem isn't anything that's threatening to the tank, but doing a large water change is still a very good idea since you left the rock out of water, and stirred up the sandbed.

I'm sure everything will get back to normal soon.

B
 

sadielynn

New Member
we changed out the sand to a live ag sand ( packed in h20)
did a 95% or so h20 change rinsed the live rock in old water reset up
yes it did stir up alot but it did not even start to settle
I am glad to know that it probably would not have hurt
it is up and running now all residents seem to be doing fine
and it is clear as a bell
 

sadielynn

New Member
ok sorry that it was so choppy I was not feeling well last nite
and this morning I also am not the mose eligent typer
here is what happened
we had a damsel that was picking on another fish really bad
he shredded the fins of 2 others
so we felt that he needed to come out and go to a qt tank
but by the time we had got him out it was almost 2 hours we had
to dismantle the tank . the tank got really cloudy and we couldnt see 3 inches in , we ran 2 filters that usually clear the tank up compleatly with in
hours but not so yesterday , we ran them for up to 5 hours with no
noticable diffrence ( alot of smells that dont bother other people will
bother me in a negitive way that is why I got sick ) this time the cloudiness seemed diffrent and I cant really explain why this is so .
so my husband took a bag of rock in h20 to the local pet store
they have had years of experience with salt tanks he said it smelled normal . I took all h20 out and put in about 4 - 6 cups of old h20 and put back into
the tank , to help seed it we emptied out all old sand did not wash
any thing off we did rinse it in old water from the tank
we tried to match all of the perameters and know that we will have a cycle at some point I just hope it is not big . The fish did eventually get pulled dispite all that work he did not survive , he had survived many things such as ick and some minor trauma but this he could not survive
as of 10pm est last nite the tank was up and the fish reacclimated to their
new water perameters as was the coral , we dripped them for about 3 hours now they are back in their tank eating and seemingly happy ,
tho I know that we have to watch them closely .
thanks to all that helped sometimes us newbies need alittle reassurance that all will be ok , it can be a little hairy at times and well the more experienced ones have been there and done that ,again thanks sadie
 

incysor

New Member
Thanks, this is a much more complete description about what is/was going on. I still think everything should be fine. I think you may get slightly elevated parameters for a bit, mainly from exposing the rock to air for more than a few minutes, but it should be pretty minor and not enough to harm anything.

I'm glad you got the trouble maker out of the tank.

B
 

incysor

New Member
I'd just check the normal params every couple days. If they start to rise alarmingly do another large water change. I'd expect it to be over within a week or so.

B
 

sadielynn

New Member
yea damn damsels pretty but a pita
I tested last nite and ammonia was .25 all others negative
ah incysor that is a huge relief that there wont be a huge cycle
this sucks haveing only one tank and having to put the others in to
so they have to endure a cycle but we will watch and do h20 changes as neede and try to only do very small changes if the perameters get out of hand
 
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