short question of a absolute newbie

1982andib

1982andib

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at first hi to all at the forum !

i see the most of you in this forum get some very very nice tanks !!!
im running some (3) freshwather tanks for years whit no problems...


so my question:

now i wanna start a nano-reef. but i have no big tank...so i read some threads and i think the most of you say its nessesary to have a bigger won in the background. so is it possible to run a nano whitout a big tank ?

or do you think i better leave it cause its to hard to do a nano for a absolute seawater newbie ?


thanx a lot !
 
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sadielynn

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Hi 1982
Its not that hard to do , we all start some where and educating oneself is the first
step .
I have a 2.5 gallon with out the larger tank but I monitor it and do h20 changes 1x a week of about 1/2 gallon and in the larger tank 7 gallon I do not have a sump either , but water change again 1x a week of about 1.5 gallons (this helps to replenish trace elements ) testing is done on a monthly basis so that I can catch any potential problems . The firs question you need to ask yourself is what size tank do I want . 2nd what do I want to keep in the tank . And finally putting together your supplies . The folks here are great and will help you as you go along. All have been where you are at some point and time , I know I have.
It is true that the greater the volume of H20 one has the more stable , room for errors but it can be done . I never had salt H20 befor my nano , I only saw the salt tanks at the store and dreamed , that was motivation enough to search out the answers and learn. That is when I learned that it could be done and many others had done it too. So as you endever in to this journey post lots of picture and take the guidence that so many others will offer you . (Also stay away from JBJ they are starting to get a poor track record imo , some have had good luck tho ) check out the post regarding nano cube owners . best of luck and looking forward to seeing your tank and progress . :)
 
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incysor

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Having a larger tank can sometimes make things a bit easier, but only in a very few specific ways. It is defintely not necessary to have a large tank as well.
The only way my 6g work nano has benefitted from my larger system is in stocking with frags from them.

Lots of research/reading/learning, and patience are the secrets.

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1982andib

1982andib

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thanx at first time...so can somewon tell me about books especially for nanoreefs !?

i got a lot books for big reefaquas.

now i wanna start (not to fast) thinkin about equipment i need.
i see every person in this forum will upgrade or change things from his setup.
i got some unused stand-alone-filter for 150liter Aquariums - can i used it as filter for a nano ? i think so i got some more watervolume...

or knows anybody a komplette nanosetup whos good to start whitout "do it yourself" on the equipment. (wassup whit the 6gallon JBJ nano cube?)

my problem is that i think i can do soo mutch wrong.

i dreamed for a 6gallon tank. at first time no hard to handel fishes or something. stabilise the system, water, organisms. at first living rock an then i will see what i do next.

no fear i don´t wanna go to fast - i think time and wisdom is everything in aquaristiks.

mfg
 
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sadielynn

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there is a book called
The Conscientious Marine Aquarist by Bob Fenner I heard that is a pretty
good book .
the other book that I have is a book called
the simple guide to marine aquariums by jeffery kurtz I thinkk that is pretty good book for beginners and has lots of pictures :lol:
My personal experience is with the 7 gallon bow front
and a 2.5 gallon tank . Yes I upgraded lights because of what I was keeping in the tank , you may be able to get away with stock lighting if you go with fish only with live rock (fowlr) you have the right attitude to go slow . Jbjs have a habbit of cracking I knew of it being the 24 gallons but some one here had I believe a 12 gallon crack. Where are you located there may be some reef clubs that you can join . any way 1 step at a time and baby steps at that :D
 
1982andib

1982andib

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i try to read much as i can...to understand the risk of a nano. when i do it, i wanna do it 100% !

but slowly my problem is that i have to much influences/inspirations/different meanings from different persons on this forum.

i know i have to do my own experiences whit nanos, but i wanna try don´t do the same fails as others have done.


the reef clubs in my near don´t mess whit nanos - they judge nanos as a very bad thing.

im in a bad mood...not much german people are involved into nano-reef-aquaristik. so its hard to have contact to people who can teach me.

but im shure or hope you guys can help memuch as they can.

i give me the next 1/2 year to start slowly whit my setup.
 

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Anonymous

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Hi welcome, - that guy has a nice tank - couldn't understand a word he said but I got the idea from the pics. :)
This is a nice sight for info on nanos, ask specific questions and give water quality numbers when applicable, and there will be many people willing to try to help you out.
 
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incysor

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I don't know of any books that have been written specifically about nano tanks. But the normal things apply. Make sure you're doing weekly water changes. Use RO/DI water. Research the requirements of your corals and animals.

As for using your existing filter. That really depends on the brand/make of the filter. Some are better than others. If it's a good filter then it should be fine on the nano. I know people that use small hang on tank filters. Some use cannister filters. Some use a wet/dry sump. Some use a refugium.

Good luck.

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1982andib

1982andib

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hello again.

so i got a new question: what do you guys thinking about that i can get a complete setup (whit live rock, corrals....) an technique ?


can i do handle this? or its even better to do a new start whit my own things ?

the aqua i can buy is this:
 

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incysor

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That's really a matter of personal preference. I LIKE setting my own tanks up from scratch, planning the filtration, lighting, livestock, etc... If you buy a system that's already setup you don't really get to do that. You can always trade or sell the stuff in the tank if you don't like some of it, and can always change the lighting and filtration, but if you're gonna do that you might as well start off with a new tank. I also think that starting a brand new tank you learn more.

But if it's a really good deal, and you like most of what's in it, and like the lighting and filtration then I'd say go for it.

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1982andib

1982andib

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so i don´t know how i like the technical setup...i like the living rock, corrals etc. price is good. after a time i wanna change the lightningsystem.

the main thing for me is that its running 1 year whitout problems...so i wanna learn to control it....after a time i change the setup or start an second nano that i build from scratch how i like it.


i hope i can learn from this nano to control it an learn what can i do better by the next won.

learning by doing - im not the theoretik guy.

peace
 
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I'd start from scratch too. There is nothing really wrong with buying that tank, like you said to get experience, but I think - its seems like there are many things that you will be paying for with that system like the lighting, and maybe even some of the filtration, that your going to end up replacing right away. And like incysor was saying - the fun is in the journey - not the destination.
 
1982andib

1982andib

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daily news ;-)


it goes faster as i have think...

yesterday i got a setup for 40$ ->3gallon tank, light...full techniqal setup.

i placed it, check the technique. it works.

today i got livesand, liverocks + old water from my customers tank.

when i placed it i do pics and show it.

thanks for the first time.
 
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Krall

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That tanks looks great with the black silicone seams, does any tank manufacturer produce those instead of the standard clear seams?
 
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