NO BODY KNOWS WHAT HIT ME.........R.I.P

EDGRAY

New Member
i got i call like 1hour ago my roomate was like calm down... and im like my fish ... and yes they all die.... finito die over .... im so upset sad and everything... what happend in one day what happend.... i started to have problems with the skimmer does skimmer cleans all your parameters or something ...

NITRATE 5
NITRITE 0
PH 7.6 - 7.8 NOT SURE

THATS ALL I KNOW WITH MY TESTS AND WELL later today ill take my water to see parameters of calcium,alkalinity, amonia and blabla ... the only surviver so far cleaner shrimp... coral all close except of the stardust...
 

dragon79

New Member
Sorry for your loss Ed, but looks like you'll find out when you have your water tested for the things you could not test.

Your pumps working? Something toxic die in your tank? Either they died of lack of oxygen, or something toxic in the water killed them.....or a disease in the water such as ick or something infected and killed everything. Hard to say as you yourself are not entirely sure.

We can only speculate at this point!
 

aromano

New Member
Ohhhhhhhh man. I am so sorry for your loss Ed! :sad:

I know it sounds like a hassle, but quarantine practices for fishes, corals and invertebrates are absolutely standard procedure for me as I have learned the hard way.

Why risk the health of your entire reef on one fish, coral or invertebrate, when very simple procedures, requiring minimal, inexpensive equipment, can virtually assure that your system will remain disease free?

Most fish are wild caught, and therefore were not exposed to pathogens present in a dealer’s system. Virtually all-marine organisms for aquariums are wild-caught, and they are all potential and real carriers of infectious and parasitic diseases. There are numerous opportunities for a fish to become stressed, exposed to disease, or infected during the long journey from the reef to your tank.

If you are interested in Quarantine practices for fishes, corals and invertebrates in the future here is some information...

All you need is a small glass aquarium, a heater and perform frequent regular water changes. No substrate of any type is required. That’s all the equipment that you need.

A bare bottom enables you to determine if any unwanted "hitchhikers" dropped off of your corals, and facilitates their easy removal. Some corals, such as the open brain coral are found in substrates, and require placement in sand bottoms in order to inflate properly. Place these corals in a small plastic container, such as a margarine tub, filled with clean sand during their quarantine period.

The quarantine period should last a minimum of 21 days.
In my opinion t is pointless to gamble with the lives of your precious reef animals. Being a responsible aquarist and quarantine all new animals before placing them in your tanks, will help you enjoy the hobby with less of a chance of unexpected surprises.

Because you’re probably using a small, shallow tank for quarantine, you will easily be able to achieve this with fluorescent light! Food can help provide nutrition for the corals that will compensate for the decreased lighting they will receive while in the quarantine tank.
 

incysor

New Member
This happened pretty fast for a pathogen.

My guess at this point would be that the water params are off somehow, and either your test kit isn't accurate, or it's something that you haven't been testing for.

Do you get your top off water from the LFS? Is it RO/DI water?

Sorry to hear about this. It totally sucks.
:cry:

B
 

EDGRAY

New Member
i know tell me about it ... i took my water to been tested at tongs and they just told me that ph was low so im gonna take my water to be tested at circle pet they use liquid stuff more accurant to see whats wrong ... ok another call cleaner just die ok .... now everyone is dead... except coral i guess is gonna die too .... still at work and leaving in 3 hours...

ok so i guess im gonna start from beggining know what should do know .... any help or i need water result first so you can help me more .......
 

sadielynn

New Member
just remeber your basics and you should be ok .....go slowely keep the bioload light and regular testing , it seems to have all been a downward spiral since the death of your mandy , and clownfish ? Maybe a cycle or spike in ammonia ? Any way sorry for your loss :sad:
 

dragon79

New Member
yeah, with no inhabitants, let it stay fish free for about a month or so. Keep the water changes coming until everything reads "0" again. Get testers so you can dose calcium, strontium, Iodine, Phosphates, and alkalinity, get it where they should be at the optimal amount of trace elements.

Live and learn, but I know this time around it'll be easier for you as you wont do the same mistake twice, right? :)
 

EDGRAY

New Member
HI, everyone thx for everything ... ohhh how can i express my loss ohh my god so anyways i went to fish store to water test with liquid so they dont know what happend they couldnt know..

NITRATE 10
NITRITE 0
AMONIA 0.5
ALKALINITY (THEY SAY IS HIGH COULDNT SEE THE RESULT)
PH 8.0
GRAVITY 1.021
CALCIUM (WAS PERFECT THATS WHY THEY SAY COULDNT SEE THE RESULT)

So what i did was to get a shock safe cause they told me that could be one of the problems ... then a water change of 50% and i put a little bit of ph buffer and i add poly filter thats it... so what do you think guys what hit me.....

coral looks fine not ok but fine ... only lavander shroom looks like is gonna die...


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :sad: :sad:
 

EDGRAY

New Member
yeah just the temperature changed like 1 cause of water change but everything is running filter , skimmer, plastic heater and shock safe (a wire to prevent electric shock purchased today).

ok , so i was reading that skimmer tends to take some trade elements out ... can anyone tell me wich ones ...
 

Dickie52

New Member
Ed,
Sounds like a bad start, I would agree with the above info, just start slow and steady and keep a close eye on things. Don't keep trying additives to corect problems, just keep up with your water changes and let the take mature.....
 

sadielynn

New Member
Ed some times we cant figure out what has hit our tanks .
But a fresh start and going slowly will help.
Also check to make sure that there isnt a stray current look for frayed wires ect .
I think that you just went alittle too fast in your start up.....
Time in this hobby seems like forever. But waiting between addetions will help you be successful........ I know that you see tanks that have been packed and want that for your tank , we all do and we all want it now , but alas we all get there slowly :sad: ......just be patient and soon you will have a beautiful packed tank......
 

EDGRAY

New Member
yeah like you say sady fresh start im gonna do a reef tank only for now so ill make a beautiful house and after awhile lets say 1 month or so ... ill start putting fish again... that sounds like a plan... the good part is that today my shrooms look ok fully open and all my cleaning crew survive whatever hit me and all the coral looks ok everything is opening little by little just my purple zoos dont want to open and is a big group....
 

sadielynn

New Member
hang in there keep the water quality high be religious with water changes and testing . I would wait for a couple months say Feb. or so to start adding let things settle down give your zoas some time to open up again something irritated your tank , are you sure that nothing got into your tank cleaner or some sort of chemical ? Could that be what be what took your tank out ?
 

reefman23

New Member
I agree with sadielynn about waiting to add fish until at least Feb, say 3 months. fish are the largest bioload that you can add.
 

skipm

Moderator
Staff member
My condolences, I hate to hear of anyones fish passing much less the entire tank. I was also wondering if it was possible that something like air freshener was sprayed in the room or has an exterminater been by to spray? I wish you the best of luck with the remaining corals. I think you would also be well advised to add the polyfilter like you mentioned so if anything did get in the tank the polyfilter can start removing it. Good luck, Skip
 

EDGRAY

New Member
THX everyone and nope nothing poisonus was introduced in the tank not even windex i only clean my tank with a paper towel and water... so still dont know what happend ... in LFS they told me that maybe the protein skimmer killed all the oxygen and the fish die of lack of oxygen and the coral didnt cause the use CO2 but anyways i dont know if i could wait that long at the most 2 weeks i know my self.... but sometimes i just want to sell or dump the f... nano tank .... hobby toooooo expensive and i can replace everything but was a pain in the a.. to flush like $90 on fish.
 

sadielynn

New Member
Go slow no more mandys and only a few maybe 3 fish this time around .I know it is harsh to lose that much but slow is the key here and will allow you success the next time . I dont know if the skimmer killed the o2 but maybe the oil residue on the insid perhaps a quick wash in warm water will clean it out and an airpump while it is breaking in ?
 

EDGRAY

New Member
ok ill do that to the skimmer and :lol: :lol: :lol: i learned my lesson with the mandy's no problem i got them ... was happy i enjoy them and now im over them :lol: :lol: just like clowns..... i think im gonna do just small fish later in 2 to 3 weeks ill get some blue neon goby,gold neon goby, banded goby and yellow clown goby. :mrgreen: but know ill stick with my coral now and that way i can arrange my live rock and take alot out cause i had toooo much.... and like in the biggining of 2 months ago you told me that the piece of coral i got was too big and you were right some times i dont know were to put it :lol: :lol: my lavander shroom recovered after water change.
 
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