Need some help with sump/refuge designs

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d-K

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hey guys,
im planning on gettin a sump/refug setup...but im not sure how im gonna make the sump design....should i divide the sump into 3 chambers with 2 blaffles. 1st chamber would be where i put the skimmer and heater and the 2nd chamber (middle) will be the refuge? 3rd chamber is the waterpump pumping the water bak into the tank? need some input...any help would greatly be appreciated

thnx,
Beck
 
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d-K

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Erik,
you got a nice sump..im gonna copy it LOL..can u tell me anything specific i have to do? im not much a DIY kinda guy.

Jesse,
thnx for the site..and i decided to do a closed-loop system
can someone list all the parts i need for a closed-loop system? im so bad at plumbing im jus gonna show the list to the sales guy to get them for me lol



i knw the black this is a scwd..and the pump is a mag..but whats the rest? if someone dun mind can u name me all the parts so i can copy it down?
Again much much thanks guys!
 
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reefman23

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The rest of it is a series of 45* and 90* looks like 1" pvc fittings and pipes. Ive seen that setup before and it is sort of an unorthodox closed-loop. It is used when you dont want to drill the tank.... like a HOB.

BTW, in your sig you mentioned having a 250 watt MH on your 20L.... that is a crapload of light on a 12" deep tank. I had a 150 watt 14,000k phoenix and that was pretty intense. For a similar cost of the 250 watter, you could run a 4x24 watt T5HO which would be as intense as a 150 watt MH. On the 20L, this would give you the benefit of less heat, MUCH les electricity, and less $$$ down the road because you need to change the lamps avery 18 months or so as opposed to every 8-12 months with the MH.

Hope all of this helps you out,

Jesse
 
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d-K

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Jesse, yea i decided to go with closed loop cuz i dun wanna drill the tank...gonna get a external overflow..and hang this loop at the back of my tank. As for the 250w light...im gonna try it out for now...if its too much i'll use the 2x65w pc aqualigh that i have here lol.
 
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reefman23

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Well that setup that you posted already has an "overflow". That tube with all the holes drilled in it is the intake for the pump. You wont need an external overflow if you arent running a sump.

Jesse

btw, what MH pendant do you have?
 
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d-K

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reefman23 said:
Well that setup that you posted already has an "overflow". That tube with all the holes drilled in it is the intake for the pump. You wont need an external overflow if you arent running a sump.
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So Jesse, if im running a closed-loop system, i wouldnt need an overflow if im running a sump?
 
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Anonymous

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thats a nice closed loop design - but it won't skim the surface with out an overflow...
 
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drty811

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thats gotta be 3/4" pvc, i have both and from the looks of it i would have to say 3/4 for sure.

it definitly wont skim the surface but does it matter since its not filtering , just cycling?
 
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d-K

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so if i want it to skim the surface then i would need to get an overflow? but with a overflow i cant use this closed-loop system?
 
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drty811

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yes you would need an overflow for it to skim the surface. you can use the closed loop system with an overflow. its just a little tricky to set it up and balance the system out.
 
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reefman23

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d-K said:
So Jesse, if im running a closed-loop system, i wouldnt need an overflow if im running a sump?
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Sorry, if you are going to do a sump as well as the closed-loop, yes you will need the overflow for the sump too.

You could easily avoid running the closed-loop though if you are going to run a sump... I have a QuietOne 4000 return pump and split the return line with a SCWD and have plenty of flow to where I dont even need any powerheads in my tank. You would have alternating flow exactly like that closed-loop you posted. You would avoid all the additional plumning of running both the sump and the closed-loop that way too.

Jesse
 
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d-K

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hmm alright lets forget the close loop then...
so what kind of plumbing do i need for an overflow and a sump?
 
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