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fishcrazee

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Hi! I was wondeirng about nanotanks. I was wondering if a 10gal is ok with 2 20watt 50/50 bulbs. I don't have one yet but I would love to make one! Are there any good articles, guides, anything that can help me? Also what kind of filter is good for a 10 gallon nano? Lastly I wanted to keep a firefish and was wondering about their needs and any possible tankmates except inverts in a 10 gallon tank... Thx in advance for all and any help!!! :D :D :D
 

incysor

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40w 50/50pc over a 10 should be enough light to easily keep softies, and many varieties of LPS. A fire fish should be fine. Supposedly they do better in pairs. They're also known jumpers. As for filters, I'd look at your budget, and decide what you'd like to do. My wife's 10g has an aquaclear 500 converted as a fuge as her filtration. She's also got about 15lbs of liverock and a 1-2inch sandbed. My 6g has a somewhat modified skilter as the only filter. If you can get something that's over-rated for your 10 the more stable you'll keep the water. Most HOB filters that are rated for 30g are only a few dollars more than the ones that are rated for 10g.

Brian
 

fishcrazee

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Ok the corals I have found that look nice are glove polyp coral and hammer stony coral. I would like to add more corals that would work well with a firefish, inverts, and the other corals. Also if there is any problem with those corals please tell me so I can cross them off the list. Thx!!! :D :D :D
P.S. Only hardy and photosynthetic corals only please. I'm a newby to this... Thx again
 

incysor

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fishcrazee said:
Ok the corals I have found that look nice are glove polyp coral and hammer stony coral. I would like to add more corals that would work well with a firefish, inverts, and the other corals. Also if there is any problem with those corals please tell me so I can cross them off the list. Thx!!! :D :D :D
P.S. Only hardy and photosynthetic corals only please. I'm a newby to this... Thx again
Both of those corals are probably ok. I haven't had any luck with glove/clove polyps, but theoretically your lights should be fine for them.

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sounds good, I have a ten gallon but with 80w lighting, I used a emperor 280 filter on it, just had to cut the tube a little so it would fit, I also have a ac200 but id go with a 500 if I was you, might want to think about a skimmer, you dont need one though, I dont have one, also its going to be a lot cheaper to just buy a traditional 10g, I have an all-glass myself, 1-2 inches of live sand is fine, I have 24lbs of Live Rock in mine, umm dont do that, odds are it wont fit as easily as mine did plus then theres not to much room, id say 18lbs will be beautiful, try to get some branched peices and some flat and flat sloaping with a round peice to just stick somewhere and let zoa's take it over, firefish will be nice but you could put 2 fish in if youd like, theres no hurting it, I have/had a firefish in mine, im not sure if hes still there, hes been missing for 2 weeks or so but he did this once before and reappeared, very strange, im keeping my fingers crossed, um also think about some powerheads maybe on a timer but you dont have to, and 50-100w heater will be fine to, a lot of people reccomend ebo-jager, I never had one, I have a visi-therm that works fine, 50w, well good luck and let us updated
 

fishcrazee

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Well I already have a freed up 10 gal regualr and was thinking of my options. So far I'm thinking of a nano. Since incysor said firefish do better in pairs maybe I'll try and get a mated pair if not would 2 firefish get along or will they kill each other if both are males?
 

incysor

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fishcrazee said:
Well I already have a freed up 10 gal regualr and was thinking of my options. So far I'm thinking of a nano. Since incysor said firefish do better in pairs maybe I'll try and get a mated pair if not would 2 firefish get along or will they kill each other if both are males?
Usually you can watch them in the LFS, and you'll be able to spot ones that already sort of paired up. Not always, but often. You might want to plan on some kind of canopy as well, since they're pretty well known for jumping out.

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fishcrazee

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are there any other suggestions for fish in a 10gallon? If I can't get a pair of firefish I may get something else. Thx for all the help!!!
 

dragon79

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how about...

fishcrazee said:
are there any other suggestions for fish in a 10gallon? If I can't get a pair of firefish I may get something else. Thx for all the help!!!
a pair of Nemo's (Perculas)?? Those would be nice. I have one in my girls tank, as well as a very curious bi-color blenny, who likes to go in and out out of every passageway through the live rock. They get along just fine and often swim together.
 
6-lined wrasse are popular, em a damsel,, any goby(except engineer), any clown, try and get something noone else has, there fore gian bragging rights, that heifriechts fire fish(thats definitly a wrong spelling), now thats a truley beautiful fish but he is about 150 the cheapest, average 180
 

Jennie

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I have practically the same setup that you're speaking of. 10g with 40w lighting and I have 2 O. Clowns and a clown goby. All get along together very nice.
 

dragon79

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real cool

Jennie said:
I have practically the same setup that you're speaking of. 10g with 40w lighting and I have 2 O. Clowns and a clown goby. All get along together very nice.
That's real nice, two clowns and a goby. I like getting unique fish, I saw a really cool one from my LFS, I forget the entire name, but I do know part of it. It's called a dragon something fish (not a dragon goby nor a goby wrasse, although kinda similar). They were available in two colors. They rock! At the LFS, they were very small, but I have no idea about their behavior and if they'd do well in a nano. If I was to consider that fish, I know I may have to trade off perhaps the bi-color blenny for it. I'll try finding a link to the fish I am talking about though.
 

incysor

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fishcrazee said:
are there any other suggestions for fish in a 10gallon? If I can't get a pair of firefish I may get something else. Thx for all the help!!!
I'd try to stick with smaller fish for nano tanks. You need to make sure to do a bit of research on them and make sure that a 10g is an acceptable size tank for them. There are lots of small gobies and blennies out there, one of my favorites, is a yashia goby. They will usually pair up with red & white striped pistol shrimp. www.marinecenter.com has a great deal on a pair for $69 right now.

http://www.themarinecenter.com/specials/index.htm

Personally before spending $150-$200 on a Helfrechi firefish I'd try a couple red or purple ones to make sure I could keep them long term. Some people just don't have luck with some corals/fish. For some reason I couldn't keep xenia alive in my 55g. Everything else did great, but I'd put zenia in my tank it it would do fine for a bit then just wither and die. I've got a friend with similar results with torch or frogspawn corals, everything else in his tank looks good, but if he puts one of these in the tank they do ok for a bit then crater. Some fish tend to be kind of the same way. Firefish seem to be one of these, jawfish are another.

Small gobies/blennies are usually good choices. I particularly like some of the sand sifting ones. But I'd want to see them eat flake in the store before I purchased them, because small tanks sandbeds don't have enough life in them to support these fish for long if they won't also eat flake/frozen. I really like blue-spotted jawfish, they're one of my favorites, but I've lost 3 of them. One because it jumped out of the tank, one to a brittlestar, and I lost the third one during the move. When it comes to clowns, I like percs, skunks, and gold-striped maroons for nanos. Just buy them as small as you can. The maroon WILL get agressive as it gets bigger. I like the orchid aka fridmani dottybacks when they're small for nano's, they're very bright, add a lot of color, and they're very curious and will swim all over the place. They will get agressive towards pretty much anything else you put in the tank after it though, and they will outgrow the tank pretty quickly.

I'd just start making a list of all the fish that catch your eye, and then do research on them. It won't take long to weed out ones that are unsuitable for a 10g.

Good luck.

Brian
 

incysor

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Re: real cool

dragon79 said:
I like getting unique fish, I saw a really cool one from my LFS, I forget the entire name, but I do know part of it. It's called a dragon something fish. They were available in two colors. They rock! At the LFS, they were very small, but I have no idea about their behavior and if they'd do well in a nano. If I was to consider that fish, I know I may have to trade off perhaps the bi-color blenny for it. I'll try finding a link to the fish I am talking about though.
What did they look like? The only ones that are coming to mind right now with dragon, is dragon wrasses, and dragon gobies, but they don't really come in different colors.

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dragon79

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Re: real cool

incysor said:
dragon79 said:
I like getting unique fish, I saw a really cool one from my LFS, I forget the entire name, but I do know part of it. It's called a dragon something fish. They were available in two colors. They rock! At the LFS, they were very small, but I have no idea about their behavior and if they'd do well in a nano. If I was to consider that fish, I know I may have to trade off perhaps the bi-color blenny for it. I'll try finding a link to the fish I am talking about though.
What did they look like? The only ones that are coming to mind right now with dragon, is dragon wrasses, and dragon gobies, but they don't really come in different colors.

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I edited my post, but apparently not before you could post, lol Basically it's not either of those. I know for a fact they in two colors and where I was looking right now listed the two you mention, but the picture does not match up to what I saw, and they didn't come in two colors. I am going to keep searching then let everybody know.
 

incysor

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Re: real cool

dragon79 said:
incysor said:
dragon79 said:
I like getting unique fish, I saw a really cool one from my LFS, I forget the entire name, but I do know part of it. It's called a dragon something fish. They were available in two colors. They rock! At the LFS, they were very small, but I have no idea about their behavior and if they'd do well in a nano. If I was to consider that fish, I know I may have to trade off perhaps the bi-color blenny for it. I'll try finding a link to the fish I am talking about though.
What did they look like? The only ones that are coming to mind right now with dragon, is dragon wrasses, and dragon gobies, but they don't really come in different colors.

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I edited my post, but apparently not before you could post, lol Basically it's not either of those. I know for a fact they in two colors and where I was looking right now listed the two you mention, but the picture does not match up to what I saw, and they didn't come in two colors. I am going to keep searching then let everybody know.
Can you describe them a bit? What colors, shapes, sand-dwellers, free-swimming, etc... I'll help ya look.

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dragon79

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whoah

incysor said:
You're not talking about seadragons are you? They come in two varieties, leafy, and weedy.

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that sea dragon is a trip. Not is't like that. I'd say it has the oval body of a clownfish, it has texture of a lionfish, (where it's all branched like a lions mane, almost) It has colors of I believe either "green and white" or "red & white" black outlines them too I believe. I'll ask my bro if he remembers, because I called him while I was at the LFS, and he was like "aww they get too big" so I was like "rats" I have no idea how big they get and what type of tank it requires. All I know is that if I was to go with exotic, he'd be the fish for me.

Edited: 11:56am *update* I found a picture, it may be indeed a dragon wrasse although i said it wasn't one. I found a better picture to help describe it and I found the green one, but not the reddish brown one. Sucks I can never find the two types on one webpage. This looks like what I saw, and I'll say it's most likely it. It's exotic looking. I'll take another look at the LFS to verify 100%.

 

incysor

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Re: whoah

dragon79 said:
incysor said:
You're not talking about seadragons are you? They come in two varieties, leafy, and weedy.

B
that sea dragon is a trip. Not is't like that. I'd say it has the oval body of a clownfish, it has texture of a lionfish, (where it's all branched like a lions mane, almost) It has colors of I believe either "green and white" or "red & white" black outlines them too I believe. I'll ask my bro if he remembers, because I called him while I was at the LFS, and he was like "aww they get too big" so I was like "rats" I have no idea how big they get and what type of tank it requires. All I know is that if I was to go with exotic, he'd be the fish for me.

Edited: 11:56am *update* I found a picture, it may be indeed a dragon wrasse although i said it wasn't one. I found a better picture to help describe it and I found the green one, but not the reddish brown one. Sucks I can never find the two types on one webpage. This looks like what I saw, and I'll say it's most likely it. It's exotic looking. I'll take another look at the LFS to verify 100%.

It's not so much that they have two color varieties, but that the juvenile and adult coloration are different.

http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/msub28 ... agonwr.htm

They're really not good choices for anything except the largest aquariums, and aren't really reef-safe, cause they'll eat pretty much any clean up crew. Not bad for large fish-only tanks.

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fishcrazee

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uhhhhh how many fish can you actually keep in a 10 gallon??? I thought 1 small fish was ok and 2 was pushing it... I'm really confused... About how many inches or # of fish can you keep in a saltwater nano? Thx for all the help
 
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