Finally put my tank together...

KoNP

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So the things I'd ordered arrived in the mail the other day, after spending a couple of hours tinkering with the salinity, getting the powerhead and filter set up, washing the substrate to get the scummy crap out and whatnot, the tank was up and running. Added some Cycle as well to kickstart the process.

Yesterday afternoon I went and bought a chunk of live rock from the aquarium store and plunked it in. 24 hours later and not only has it already got little things growing on it, but my ammonia and nitrite are at 0, and my nitrate is somewhere between 5 and 10ppm, and the pH is about 8.2.

So I'd say it's going well.

Here are some pics:



The chunk of rock I got weighed 4 kilograms, cost me $72 bucks which I wasn't quite expecting. I wanted more but this will suffice for now. The powerhead was smaller than I expected but it still seems to make decent currents and turbulence. The substrate is fantastic, with chunks of crushed coral and tiny shells and stuff in it. Filter is decent too, set it up with the spray bar at the water's surface to create surface turbulence.



Here you can see the water has some decent surface currents.



I've got a little brown guy growing just left of centre, and some little red things growing on top - neither of them were there when I got the rock only yesterday. Guess the Cycle worked :p

-EDIT-

I just went and had a closer look at my tank - I found a long thin worm thing, he was white at his front section, shaded towards black toward his "tail" with a thin red line running down the middle, and he was buried in the sand.

Also, there's a tiny (couple of mm across) black-and-white speckled thing that looks vaguely like a starfish with two long arms and one tiny short one. There's also all sorts of cool little things sprouting off the rock I hadn't noticed before.

Are these going to stick around or are they going to get wiped out in a cycle? The nitrates are still reading at around 10ppm with 0 on ammonia and nitrite, so either I managed to somehow fluke the right water conditions or...

-EDIT EDIT-

Ok so this rock is TEEMING with life. I've since found 2 small crabs, a snail, a feather duster, a couple of brown soft thingies, a whole bunch of white frondy stuff on the back of it, a ton of worms... I think I've gotten myself a good piece of rock here.
 

KoNP

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http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=alYw0xJIZ7A

Here's a video of the tank, can't really make out much. The crabs and whatnot were hiding for the night so they don't appear.

-EDIT-

So one of the crabs is dead, but so far he's the only casualty. Did a water test, came in at what looks like 0.25ppm nitrite and still somewhere between 5 - 10ppm nitrate. Ammonia was a big fat 0 again. With any luck the nitrite will spike and vanish by the end of the weekend.

-EDIT 03.02.2009-

So the ammonia spiked bigtime today, I just took a reading of between 0.5 and 1 ppm, no nitrite, and between 5 - 10ppm nitrate again. Looks like the cycle has well and truly started. Might chuck some fresh Cycle in there tomorrow.
 

KoNP

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Ohhhhhkay... came home to find my rock mostly brown, still with the little anemone and feather duster on it, and some colourful patches, but predominantly brown. A lot of the sand was brown-speckled too.

Water test yielded high nitrite and medium nitrate. Fingers crossed this is all part of the cycle...
 

TimSchmidt

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Yes. Diatom bloom. Perfectly normal. It will get worse, then all of a sudden look GREAT. That anemone looks like aiptasia and should probably be gotten rid of.

No big deal with the chemicals, I personally think that in the beginning you can save a few bucks by not using them. No harm done. :cool1:
 

KoNP

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TimSchmidt said:
Yes. Diatom bloom. Perfectly normal. It will get worse, then all of a sudden look GREAT.
Oh thank christ lol, I thought I'd annihilated my entire tank by overlooking something LOL. Adding a few more kilos of LR to it this weekend, found a place that does it WAY cheaper than the $18/kg the original place did.

TimSchmidt said:
That anemone looks like aiptasia and should probably be gotten rid of.
Yeah, I've been keeping an eye on him, he doesn't have clear tentacles or anything like that though, he doesn't look like the typical aiptasia - and if you poke him he only curls up, he doesn't vanish into the rock. Keep poking and he vanishes though.

TimSchmidt said:
No big deal with the chemicals, I personally think that in the beginning you can save a few bucks by not using them. No harm done. :cool1:
Ah lol. Well I like having a small stockpile of things like water conditioners, cycle-related stuff and so on, just in case I need any for my 3 freshwater tanks hahaha. The cost doesn't bother me, tank chemicals aren't expensive where I am.

-EDIT-

So here is the closest close-up I could get of the anemone in question, it's not the best quality but my N95-8GB stubbornly refused to do any better. When my camera is done charging I'll see if I can get a better one, but it typically gets confused by the glass...



I'm trying to find as many identifying details as possible. So far I've got:

-Light brown
-"Bubbles" on the end of tentacles

If it is Aiptasia I'll either buy a peppermint shrimp or some Joe's Juice (yes, Australia has that too :D ) and take care of it.
 

TimSchmidt

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Well the bubbles make me think bubble tip anemone, although I've never seen one so small.

Heck you don't have anything else in there yet right? Might be cool to see what comes of it. (if it starts to spread that would be a good indication to eradicate)
 

KoNP

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Just got back from the LFS (Pet City in Wishart for those who know brisbane) where I picked up a peppermint shrimp, 2 trochus snails, 5.6kg of live rock and there was some kind of small snail hitchiking on part of it that got missed, so him too.







-EDIT-

The other snail is a cowrie snail, i think. He was hard to identify at first because he had his mantle covering his shell and it had funny little protuberance thingies on it. He's the right shape and his shell his smooth so my guess is a chestnut, but he's not spotted, he's banded instead.
 

KoNP

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The live rock had a little bunch of Velonia on it :mad: :mad: On the bit that looks vaguely like a hand, right up the top close to where the filter outlet is. When I was picking them off once of them popped.

Got my fingers crossed they don't spread.

Also my pH dropped down to 7ish all of a sudden - so I bought some (terrifically overpriced) marine buff powder and added it... one of the snails spazzed out a little then calmed down, and the pH went back up to where it should have been.

Everything is moving along nicely, the water is crystal-clear at the moment; I'll upload some more pics later.

-EDIT-



God, I can't wait to start putting corals and whatnot in there.
 

KoNP

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Bought some corals and a starfish today to help out the cleanup crew (who are doing very nicely btw). Bought a Funga.... uhm.. forget it's name (the little round one at the front), 2 small candy canes, a frondy guy whose name I have also forgotten, and a little orange starfish.

The tank is really starting to liven up now, the colours on the algae on the rock are coming out, there's spots appearing on the glass at the back, there's something on the original piece of rock photosynthesizing and producing bubbles, and there's all assortments of worms and feathers and polyps and another anemone appeared on the new rock, and a bristly thing was sticking out... I'm quite excited.

 

KoNP

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Got this guy the other day:



Paid $49 for him. He is a Crispa. something. Very pretty, at any rate. Doesn't seem to like strong light, he tends to migrate to shade and then let his little tubers fly.

The rocks are looking more and more spectacular every day. I have patches of red, pink, purple and green coralaceous algae, there's a crimson patch of algae on the glass in the back left-hand corner that's photosynthesizing, there's what looks like a family of polyps on the original piece of rock I had, and there are tiny white things in the water! Tiny, miniscule things that are on the glass and whatnot, moving around.

Did a 20% water change this arvo, all my water parameters were good, no ammonia or nitrite, pH was good, but the water was a litte "stale". After the change, everyone livened up a bit. I'll take a photo of the whole tank once the smokiness has settled.
 

KoNP

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TimSchmidt said:
Nice additions! How about a full tank shot?
Right here :p



Took a shot with a vivid setting, custom white balance and ISO setting to bring out some of the colours a little better and cut through the glass (it was making the shots a little muddy).

The Crispa is hiding behind the rock to the right of the shot - he's all the way on the bottom with his fronds on the sand as if he's eating or something - he's not dead though and is quite lively if you give him a light poke, just seems content to sit there all upside-down and sideways. Wonder why that is?

In the category of "less than good" news - one of my trochus snails decided to visit the aquarium in the sky overnight and liked it so much he stayed. The other one is fine, but this one was well and truly dead. Oh well. Got 4 Ner...neridia? the white and black striped snails? They're all doing fine so it's a non-issue.

Mounted a 300L/hour hang-on filter at the back-left there, to improve slow. I have the Christmas Twins, unfortunately. I don't want to scrub the rock for risk of upsetting the critters, so i'll just stick it out and keep an eye on things.
 

funkngroovy

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Wow,,,

Do me one favor. Have a read about the symbyotic relationship between corals and zoanthellae bacteria. This is the main method that corals get food

The bacteria rely on photosynthesis to reproduce and in turn, feed the corals.

Corals need strong light. And if they don't have that, they should be placed as close as possible to the light source, ie. the top of the tank.

Here is a link to a short 200 word paragraph on the subject.

http://manta.uvi.edu/coral.reefer/feeding.htm

:D
 

TimSchmidt

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Posts deleted at request of thread starter.

Note: This is a forum to share and help all. Any and all help is welcome, but let's please remember that we all have opinions.

For any algae it is generally a good idea to increase water flow, check that source water is clean (no nutrients), reduce feedings, and to help kick algae increase water changes for a bit to help reduce excess nutrients.
 

TimSchmidt

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funkngroovy said:
zoanthellae bacteria. This is the main method that corals get food

The bacteria rely on photosynthesis to reproduce and in turn, feed the corals.

Corals need strong light. And if they don't have that, they should be placed as close as possible to the light source, ie. the top of the tank.
True zooxanthellae are very important, but not a bacteria though. You are right, I'm no expert - I just pass on the info I research and let others know what worked for me. Please share your experience.

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/feb2002/cw.htm
 

KoNP

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Woke up today to find the BTA was inflated and flourishing (or so I thought). Almost as quickly as I could turn around, it was coughing up bits of itself, losing mucus, and parts were falling off. And it smelt. The water was still ok but the anemone itself smelt very odd.

Got it out, considering it'd obviously kicked the bucket at this point. Did a water change, and checked the parameters - STILL FINE. No sudden spikes, no pH drop, a slight nitrate rise which I was expecting. Everything else in the tank is fine - snails are snailing, starfish is starring, the peppermint shrimp took the time to moult and get a bit bigger, and the corals are colourful and feeding as if nothing ever happened.

What did I overlook? It's entirely possible the anemone didn't take the shock of the move and the different tank well, in fact i'm leaning towards that as every other tank inhabitant, moving or otherwise, seems quite content to go on living happily. I feel like a twit even though I shouldn't - I followed the rules and crossed the landmarks that needed crossing. :evil:

Grr...oh well, at least it was only the BTA. I might try and find something a little hardier next time.

Also, I should mention I scrubbed the original piece of live rock as clean as I could get it to get rid of the hair algae on it, it came up nicely. Cleaned out the filter and powerhead also, and found what appeared to be a bristleworm in the head. He burrowed into the sand as soon as he had freedom. Gonna work at getting rid of that majano at some point, he keeps disappearing every time i try and deal with him.
 
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