I called customer service at aquatraders and got yelled at there were a few things that we were looking for for our 3 tanks and they yelled at me for calling they told me that since I had not ordered anything yet that I was "not a customer" well with that said that I am not a customer I NEVER will be either . They suck in my opinion and I wouldnt give them a dime of my money. One word of warning if you are a company and you tell a customer they are a waste of time you just blew off a possible new customer that will tell people of their experiences or lack there of the :internet is a powerful place and tool just remember that . So here is to aquatraders :moonin :asshole oh and :nice